cycle critique (tbol, sust, proviron)

[needtogetaas]

Your original plan is a good one. Needto's idea is good to go as well. Running Proviron all the way thru is a solid idea.

I didn't notice your PCT the first time. go with Needto's suggestions. Hit up PCT 2010 in the search engine

hit the thread taking steroids 101 at the top of this forum

 

[needtogetaas]

Your original plan is a good one. Needto's idea is good to go as well. Running Proviron all the way thru is a solid idea.

I didn't notice your PCT the first time. go with Needto's suggestions. Hit up PCT 2010 in the search engine

do not do that!!!!!!!!!!! its shitty pct advice

 

[vickrx7]

if i'm going to run proviron through the whole cycle it would cost me the same as running Masteron E 300mg ew so i would probably do that instead of proviron.....

 

[vickrx7]

this is a great looking 2nd cycle. Not sure what the issue is here?? You don't need Prop/Susp or anything like that. This is money.

What are you goals?

my goals are 20-25lbs of lean muscle if possible, i seemed to react quite well from the tbol the first time, and i've always reacted well to prohormones....mostly strength over weight though...by the end of my tbol cycle i weighed 180 and was benching 355 which i was excitied about....I'm not TOO concerned about putting weight on though, i'd much wrather be stong and lean, which from what i've read is more diet oriented...and my diet is clean and in check
2800-3200 cals e/d 250grm protein and fill in the rest with clean carbs and good fats from olvies and avacatos....dont' count the carbs yet, i will when i up the cals for during the cycle to about 3500-4000 most likely

i was considering running tren, but i have asthma so it didn't seem like a great idea...but it's cheap lol

also i was only planning on running the Tbol for 4 weeks because that's when i noticed the gains started to slow, and to run 2 more weeks of it would cost me an extra $100, so in my opinion not worth it.... I am set on running tbol w/ sust since i have tbol left over and sust250 is the cheapest test my guy has....test e and c are the same price but only 200mg/ml so ultimately more expensive
i can get TTE at a ratio of (250test-150tren) but again....asthma? so not sure
i didnt' get sides from tbol and i figured i coudl start proviron in week 4 because that's when people say sust kicks in....i didn't really wanna have to buy 2 bottles of proviron seeing as it's $150 for 100 25mg pills...and i could probably add something better to the cycle for $300 lmao

I havn't purchased anything yet and i have a friend who will purchase my extra tbol off of me if need be...so if anyone has other suggestions that go well with sust250, taking my goals into concideration ...i would really appreciate some ideas

sorry about the long post bros, didn't realize how much i was rambling haha

 

[vickrx7]

everyone loves the response they are looking for. No one likes the truth. Keep that it mind

haha tell me about it, i just liked the idea that he said i didn't need prop/susp ... really didn't want to pin eod my first time...

i would LOVE to do the cycle you suggested to me man but to be completely honest at the risk of sounding cheap...that would cost me an arm and a leg hahaha

i'm starting to feel sketchy about nolvadex as well...people sayin it's a carcinogen, and clomid has some pretty intense horror stories as well
would toremifene be a better choice?
or aromasin through full cycle instead of proviron for just 7weeks?