armidex or novaldex - to keep waist fat down during men's cycle...

[Cindy99]

ok, so i see armidex at 0.5mg eod or novaldex taken throughout a cycle can help with the fat a man can put on in a newbie cycle, but which to use?

recent post swears by armidex and some say don't leave home (or start cycle) without it. can't novaldex do the same thing.

i know, diet is paramount.

 

[FOZY]

The main reason why poeple stress Nolva and Arimi is not really about keeping fat down but to prvent Gyno from occuringduring a cycle. They both hinder estrogen during a cycle which in excess can lead to gyno.....

As far as fat loss it keeps estrogen related bloat down cased by over aromitizing steroids ( which also leads to gyno). I dont really see it as a fat loss drug but it might help with eliminating estrogen related fat stores.

If your BF were to use one Arimi would be the better choice do to the fact it is less harmful to IGF1 which is a important part of muscle building. Nolva binds to the receptor sight not letting estogen attatch to it. ( Its a week E) while arimi actually rids the body of E

These drugs are also used post cycle to bring Nat test levels back into check. Surpressing E raises T. Clomid is the most common one used

As far as your situation, I just read your other post

Take it easy, I hope your BF is on some sort of anti E ANYWAY since he just completed a cycle. Judging by his lack of education I bet he is not. You can get ready for a BIG crash once that sus leaves his sytem in about 4 wks.

If you want your man to lose fat change his diet. I guarentee you will not see results with just ant i E's ( I have been on them for months at a time) right now just concentrate on post cycle not shedding fat , trust me a crash is not pleasent

I feel bad for your guy and you, he is going to end up fucking himself up and somehow you are slightly responsible............

 

[FOZY]

BTW ..

750 MG of SUS and 35-50mg of D-bol a day for eight weeks for his FIRST cyle ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ?

I bet he took no liver protectors either, man I am glad I am not this guy

Good luck, thank the heavens you found this board

 

[Cindy99]

no liver protectors at all. but he was always skinny and said his cholesterol, etc., was great before the cycle, so why should that change. i bought him some ALA, at least he said he'd take that with the next cycle. and he was pleased with the 35 pound weight gain from the dBol and SUST - its just the fat around the waist that i don't like. thanks 4 the responses...

 

[Cindy99]

and working late so eating at office 3x/week, fast food probably 5x/week, doesn't know what a chicken breast looks like, always ate shitty and was always 160 pounds and healthy, starts with gear, balloons to 205 pounds and looks fat for first time in life. diet, diet, diet is what you're all telling me to stress to him... OK

 

[FOZY]

Cindy I am stressing for the guy to learn what the Fuck he is doing........thats it

and he was pleased with the 35 pound weight gain from the dBol and SUST

IS he taking a recovary drug right now ?????? (Clomid, nolva, arimi) 35 LBS will be gone real soon if he did not plan a good post cycle. Even worse 35 LBS lighter with a surpressed HPTA which will probably lead to more muscle loss and Body fat raise. He was taking sus ( and a good dose) so you still have some time before it clears his system to get the guy on track before the crash sets in. Once he crashes good luck I have been there...



no liver protectors at all. but he was always skinny and said his cholesterol, etc., was great before the cycle

no liver protectors at all. but he was always skinny and said his cholesterol, etc., was great before the cycle

Cholestesterol may be the least of your porblems with 30-50mg of D-bol a day for 8 weeks. Get his liver enzymes checked I have a feeling they are going to be REEL HIGH which IS BAD if high enough


This post is making me ILL

All you fucking care about is some fat around his waist....WHY DONT YOU START CARING ABOUT HIS HEALTH. You are so fucking shallow I want to puke

you bought him some ALA for his next cycle.......THERE SHOULD BE NO NEXT CYCLE FOR NOW....Start taking the ALA yesterday. His liver neads a break ! ! !! With no clomid he is going to have to deel with some major recovary

GET EDUCATED I am honestly angered reading this, both of you have to grow the fuck up

 

[Cindy99]

thanks 4 your concern. but his cycle didn't just end, it was about 6 months ago, since then he started a cycle but then stopped 3 weeks into it because he had to goto asia for business and stayed there for 6 weeks so he couldnt' shoot/eat gear and barely had time to work out.

so, his first cycle took him from 170 to 205 pounds. he used clomid etc., but no liver protectors at all and went down to 190, but then fattened back to 200 and that's where he remains. he's a boyfriend not my spouse so if the gear kills him, i'll find someone else (this is meant to be funny eh?)- what the hey. my main concern (and his) is the fat around his waist.

so please don't worry about him. you've all given some great advice and liver protectors, better diet, etc., are among the best advice and i'll pass it all along.

 

[FOZY]

might want to check the training board..weighing 200 and only benching a best of 230........? ? That a good place to start also

BTW it sais alot when the guy is not on here himself.....

Good luck too both of you

 

[Cindy99]

i will, didn't know there was a training board. thanks, C.

 

[Mighty P]

Both of you guys main concern is a few lbs around the waist???? Damn, I'm with Fozy. You guys are fucking idiots, and do not need to be using gear. Tell your boyfriend to get off his lazy ass and do a little cardio and eat right. That's it! Or, you could get off your lazy ass and help him by preparing meals etc.. so he doesn't have to eat out. Cutting fat is not rocket science! It just takes a little dedication.