Tried those again Saturday with 185...hurt like a b*tch. Because of my size, even with decent flexibility, it is hard to do those. I cant really rest the bar in the crooked of my arms like I should and still reach the floor. I have to carry the bar somewhat on my forearms. With the heavier weight the arms are definitely the limiting factor. Would be a much easier exercise for someone under 6ft tall and under 200lbs. Definitely worth a try anyway...