Why do people take such high dose of juice????? MUST READ!!!!

[Iron Warrior707]

Im very curious to know why do so many guys take massive amounts of juice..
I mean there are so many people now days running over a gram of shit to get results, like:
700mg test
600mg deca
800mg eq
50mg dbol..
That is an average what most people would run, thats the way i see it in many forums... WHY? Why do people need so much juice to get results, Where is the dedication?? Now most people rely on drugs to get results??? I mean if 500mg of test and 40mg dbol wont get you big there is something wrong with your workout and nutrition..

I really wanna know why do YOU (anyone runnig something like that) run that much steroids?? Just an honest question, i really wanna know, like isnt 500mg test enough? Thats 10x more testosterone than any male produce a week, yet over grams of juice is an average for most..

What do you guys have to say about that...

 

[HAYEZ]

you step up the game as you get further and further into it...dont want to up the dose then dont..but dont judge others for it as it doesn't effect you..more drugs equal more gains..as much as people dont want to admit it thats what it is

 

[joeblow12345]

The truth is most aas users don't know what there doing. The majority of the time its the blind leading the blind. Everyone these days wants a quick fix instead of hardwork. A cycle like the one you listed is for a seasoned vet, not a 19 year old kid looking for bigger arms. The reason its sensible for a vet is over time the doses must increase, because lower doses will become less effective. But thats hardly the case in most instances. I see people on the first cycle doing 4 different drugs. As long as your smart youll be ok.

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[Nelson Montana]

More juice equals more gains but it isn't exponentially. In other words, if 500 mgs makes you gain 10 pounds, 1000 mgs will not make you gain 20 pounds.

And to be honest, most people use about 1/4th of a steroids potential. They don't know how to train. They don't eat right. They don;t use the right supplements. So sure, they need two grams to get the same results someone who knows what he's doing can get with 500 mgs.

 

[Ripp42]

Im very curious to know why do so many guys take massive amounts of juice..
I mean there are so many people now days running over a gram of shit to get results, like:
700mg test
600mg deca
800mg eq
50mg dbol..
That is an average what most people would run, thats the way i see it in many forums... WHY? Why do people need so much juice to get results, Where is the dedication?? Now most people rely on drugs to get results??? I mean if 500mg of test and 40mg dbol wont get you big there is something wrong with your workout and nutrition..

I really wanna know why do YOU (anyone runnig something like that) run that much steroids?? Just an honest question, i really wanna know, like isnt 500mg test enough? Thats 10x more testosterone than any male produce a week, yet over grams of juice is an average for most..

What do you guys have to say about that...

Alot of ppl think the aas is magic i think. But some ppl dont respond as well as others and likewise reseptors could be shot.

Ppl expect results rite away. 500 is plenty imo but i usually use 600

 

[Iron Warrior707]

Im not judging anyone, its their choice if they want to take 2g i dont care, non of my business.. I think this sport is just getting stupid, i agree with nelson on this, most people dont train hard or eat right so they rely on steroids to get results and i know many guys who do this.. When i took 500mg of sustanon my first crappy cycle, i had superhuman strength i thought i was the superman no joke, i could bent over row 300lb x 6 after 8 month of lifting, i know stupid starting early but i havent touched the juice in a year, my lat pulldown went from 180 to 270 in 2 month, i could not imagine being on deca, test, tren, dbol, all these drugs would be freaky, now im 232lb at 5"8 and natural, i worked very very hard and havent missed a meal in a year and half to get here..
To me it looks like people just looking for a shortcut, lets take over 1 grams juice get big, cause i know for a fact you can get very big with 500mg test, im talking 250lb 10%bf, if you cant your not working hard and have crappy diet.. I understand people are looking to go to the next level and IMO 500mg of test is over next level for a gym rat (not talking about competing in high levels), since its 10x more test than what you produce..

 

[pimpski7]

I've ran high doses before. The results were more dramatic, but my kept gains are the same from lower doses. Its cheaper to run lower doses too!

 

[Backtobasicks]

Im not judging anyone, its their choice if they want to take 2g i dont care, non of my business.. I think this sport is just getting stupid, i agree with nelson on this, most people dont train hard or eat right so they rely on steroids to get results and i know many guys who do this.. When i took 500mg of sustanon my first crappy cycle, i had superhuman strength i thought i was the superman no joke, i could bent over row 300lb x 6 after 8 month of lifting, i know stupid starting early but i havent touched the juice in a year, my lat pulldown went from 180 to 270 in 2 month, i could not imagine being on deca, test, tren, dbol, all these drugs would be freaky, now im 232lb at 5"8 and natural, i worked very very hard and havent missed a meal in a year and half to get here..
To me it looks like people just looking for a shortcut, lets take over 1 grams juice get big, cause i know for a fact you can get very big with 500mg test, im talking 250lb 10%bf, if you cant your not working hard and have crappy diet.. I understand people are looking to go to the next level and IMO 500mg of test is over next level for a gym rat (not talking about competing in high levels), since its 10x more test than what you produce..

I have a few mates who don't juice, but are all sub 10% ish. 5"8 kinda height.. And weigh like 180-200, i don't see them getting 70 lbs naturally, "easily" for that matter. That isn't natural on many peoples frames.. One of them deads over 400 without training strength, but no way is he putting on 70 pounds, and here that's pretty strong where we train, only in mid 20s.
Once you've run a cycle bro, you've got a slight kick start on some people... Then some new Guys might wanna catch you faster so run double your dose to beat you. (logic from some)

 

[Power36]

Ive never gone high dosages, only two minor blasts in addition to being on HRT for two years....but my best shape in past two years was when I was actually playing around with a lower dose for HRT, dropped down to 150mg Test per week, but was training my nuts off, supplementing with the right stuff, and I was 5'10 and 235, at 7.5% BF measured by dunk tank (not my guesstimate, not calipers)....Im sure I have better genetics than a lot of folks, and I have over 25 years of training experience, but yea Im actually worried if I ever do a monster cycle with dosages like you list, if Im gonna blow up and look like a freak, and be too big...Im sure some folks think there is never such a thing as too big, but going into my late 30s I do not need to ever be bigger than 250lbs at 5'10...and when Im doing things right in the gym, at the meal table, and with supplements, Im pretty darn strong and athletic...so Im actually curious what happens when you do hit big cycles...Im thinking about 600mg Test E plus 400mg Masteron E a week, and 50mg tbol a day, for a winter blast for 2 months...just because I have lots of test and tbol stored up I might as well use...it will be the most gear ive ever taken by far haha....

As for folks hitting the bean in their teens or 20s, seriously...there is probably no way in hell they learned to train, eat right, and supplement right, with proper rest, recovery, and active recovery, if they gotta juice that early on....something isnt right, especially if one is hitting higher dosages...

 

[Iron Warrior707]

Ive never gone high dosages, only two minor blasts in addition to being on HRT for two years....but my best shape in past two years was when I was actually playing around with a lower dose for HRT, dropped down to 150mg Test per week, but was training my nuts off, supplementing with the right stuff, and I was 5'10 and 235, at 7.5% BF measured by dunk tank (not my guesstimate, not calipers)....Im sure I have better genetics than a lot of folks, and I have over 25 years of training experience, but yea Im actually worried if I ever do a monster cycle with dosages like you list, if Im gonna blow up and look like a freak, and be too big...Im sure some folks think there is never such a thing as too big, but going into my late 30s I do not need to ever be bigger than 250lbs at 5'10...and when Im doing things right in the gym, at the meal table, and with supplements, Im pretty darn strong and athletic...so Im actually curious what happens when you do hit big cycles...Im thinking about 600mg Test E plus 400mg Masteron E a week, and 50mg tbol a day, for a winter blast for 2 months...just because I have lots of test and tbol stored up I might as well use...it will be the most gear ive ever taken by far haha....

As for folks hitting the bean in their teens or 20s, seriously...there is probably no way in hell they learned to train, eat right, and supplement right, with proper rest, recovery, and active recovery, if they gotta juice that early on....something isnt right, especially if one is hitting higher dosages...

Very nice stats my friend, 5"10 235lb and 7.5%bf is a beast.. When i said 250lb at 10% for someone on 500mg test was for a dude whos at least 6 foot above, Im only 23y/o, so i've got alot to grow naturally, if i get on a gram+ juice like most guys i would be easily 240lb at 10%, i am 5"8 232lb right now but my bf is around 18%.... People like you are a great motivator to me and others that you dont need much juice to get big and lean, hard work and good nutrition is where its at..
you are the very few guy i know who bust ass and not rely on drugs to get results..
Keep it up bro..