so working each body part 1/week really works?

[RusPA81]

Good post. It's nice when people have an open mind.

 

[casualbb]

I agree, good post. You said it way better than I could.

-casual

 

[Lord_Suston]

All right everyone the name calling can stop, this is a debate not a war...

Casual you make some good points...

I just can't train that much since I focus on compounds that I don;t like compromising my form cause other secondary muscles are weak....I just find many groups overlap in a week

if you cycle intensity then I could see where it might work but I don't like going throught the motions when I can go balls to the wall.

I am not after size alone either, I post my lifts they are not based for size. I want strength and speed

 

[Aussie Juga naught]

Hmm... "Making guys feel macho"... That is very interesting. Might those be the kind of guys that, say, put pictures of guns in their avatars to look macho as well?

You're kind of making me ashamed of being 1/2 Aussie. Anyway, to address your [ignorant] points:

But I guess I'll be the "pussy" who is growing 3 times faster than you.

nanotitan and Debaser Whats your stats, and can you back them up with pics..... I guess they will tell who is training like a pussy or not.

 

[kentucky]

so this could be settled by saying, different strokes for different folks?

another que.


For those who work body parts twice a week, how long are you in the gym/each day? The way these workouts are going for me, I work for about 1 hour at most, and I'm so fatigued, my muscles feel like jello. I couldn't imagine trying to keep going or trying later that day. AND actually feel like I had a good workout....

help me understand...

 

[Debaser]

nanotitan and Debaser Whats your stats, and can you back them up with pics..... I guess they will tell who is training like a pussy or not.

I have no pics, but would it matter? You have to start somewhere. I started training a year ago at 170 lbs with 14-15% bodyfat (6' 1/2"). Right now I'm about 205 at 10%. I haven't always had the time/drive to eat or train all out during the entire year either, if I did I would probably be at 220.

 

[T-Rage]

For those who work body parts twice a week, how long are you in the gym/each day? The way these workouts are going for me, I work for about 1 hour at most, and I'm so fatigued, my muscles feel like jello. I couldn't imagine trying to keep going or trying later that day. AND actually feel like I had a good workout....help me understand...

You just have to start out slowly and build up to full intensity.

For example when I was 19 (I'm 32 now) I worked as a welder with some tough ass mother f'rs. We built giant 18 wheeler steel trash containers from the ground up. The first two weeks of carrying around heavy ass steel I-beams, oxygen tanks weighing 100's of pounds, and all kinds of other crap practically killed me. But in time my body began do deal with 8 hours of physical exertion everyday.

The same thing goes for construction workers. Are their forearms overtrained or are they strong as shit? My guess is they are strong as shit.

The body will adapt but you have to give it a chance. Most people probably try going balls to walls 2x a week and get burnt out quickly and say it doesn't work for them.

I started out doing 2 easy work sets per muscle group intiallly. Then every week I increase the intensity and add additional movements. I will continue this until I'm doing everything I need to do.

 

[collegiateLifter]

-Casual

in response to

Casual I have a question for you and don't take this as a flame. Do you (or under the guidelines of your program) believe that strength gains don't equate to gains in size? If you answer yes to this then you can just skip the rest Im about to write.......

you said

No, I don't believe strength = size and I also expect to add another 10 pounds tomorrow to make it 20 total.


-casual

I would carefully reconsider how exactly you figure to gain the most amount of size, as i have in recent months. I don't want to get into a full on debate, but gaining large amounts of strength is a neccessity in gaining significant size, as a rule. I would suggest you reconsider too. In general strength gains can either directly reflect size gains, or facilitate future size gains. As John McCallum said, "you can't expect a build like Grimek if you're handling weights your grandmother could lift."

 

[casualbb]

Dude...I agree that the two are correlated, and one seems to reliably accompany the other. I know I'm weak but what I currently lift represents a pretty big increase from what I was doing initially.

-casual

 

[NEWcb38ac]

Stregth and size dont HAVE to go togethr... Right now I am stronger than I was 8 weeks ago but MUCH weaker than I was a year agou when I was 15 pounds lighter at a higher bodyfat...

I may be the ecception and not the rule but for me I can getbigger an be getting weaker... I've neevr been very strong in upper body lits and right now at my biggest I am not my strongest