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Short1's Road to the USA's. The "Quest to get my bum lean" thread.

the-short-one said:
so explain to me how this works _ or I'll explain and you tell me how wrong I am. ;)

It still takes 3500 calories to add a pound no matter what you do, correct? During rebound, does my body store everything rather than burning it? Is this why weight gain comes back so fast?
Water rebound hun not all fat probably very little is actual fat.
 
Daisy_Girl said:
I wanna see the frogs. :) Next time, take pics in the frogs. :)

yes, ma'am. :D They're cool.


*Bunny* said:
I worked there for like 4 yrs lol

the PC is pac sun lol loffed the clothes though

Nice pics. I think you look great, muscles look big & cuts still visible... you're not super soft or anything horrible TSO

the adjustment must be hard to deal with, I can only imagine. Cute pooch

It's a mental thing. I know I'm not fat. You just get used to seeing your body a certain way and then suddenly *POOF*

Before I got lean, I was afraid I wouldn't like the way I looked at a low BF %. I was wrong. lolol The sad part about all of that is you look good, but you don't feel good. Tired all the time with the low diet and cardio.


Yin and Yang. Balance in everything.
 
the-short-one said:
so explain to me how this works _ or I'll explain and you tell me how wrong I am. ;)

It still takes 3500 calories to add a pound no matter what you do, correct? During rebound, does my body store everything rather than burning it? Is this why weight gain comes back so fast?

Several things.......

1 - You are coming off of:

a - Thyroid
b - clen
c - Arimidex



....JUST those three things *could* cause a backlash of 10% of your bodyweight.


Of the scale weight - to me it looks like 75% is water, 25% fat.


You have increased carbs and calories and dropped back on the cardio and fat burning weight sessions, decreased water.



3500 cals still = a pound.


BUT, it the combination of the beta agonist(clen), the thyroid and the Adex, that is blurring the lines.


I personally don't consider whatyou are going through as rebound.

Rebound is defined as the body REacting to a change in a way that it OVER compensates for the initial change.

You are reacting...but not in an extreme manner.....
 
The Shadow said:
Several things.......

1 - You are coming off of:

a - Thyroid
b - clen
c - Arimidex



....JUST those three things *could* cause a backlash of 10% of your bodyweight.


Of the scale weight - to me it looks like 75% is water, 25% fat.


You have increased carbs and calories and dropped back on the cardio and fat burning weight sessions, decreased water.



3500 cals still = a pound.


BUT, it the combination of the beta agonist(clen), the thyroid and the Adex, that is blurring the lines.


I personally don't consider whatyou are going through as rebound.

Rebound is defined as the body REacting to a change in a way that it OVER compensates for the initial change.

You are reacting...but not in an extreme manner.....

for the record - now that I'm off of it: I HATE clen. lol I hated every minute that I was taking it. Made me feel like shit and didn't sleep well.

At least now I'm getting some decent rest.
 
the-short-one said:
yes, ma'am. :D They're cool.




It's a mental thing. I know I'm not fat. You just get used to seeing your body a certain way and then suddenly *POOF*

Before I got lean, I was afraid I wouldn't like the way I looked at a low BF %. I was wrong. lolol The sad part about all of that is you look good, but you don't feel good. Tired all the time with the low diet and cardio.
Yin and Yang. Balance in everything.

mmmmm so true. It's like you can't enjoy looking so hawt.
I know what you're going through mentally, but I have to say you still look pretty friggin hot to me! And no need to miss your abs....they're still there!
 
the-short-one said:
for the record - now that I'm off of it: I HATE clen. lol I hated every minute that I was taking it. Made me feel like shit and didn't sleep well.

At least now I'm getting some decent rest.

AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Sassy69 said:


veeeery interesting. Our Shadow knows his stuff:

A least two prominent considerations come to mind. First, and of obvious import; the more lean mass retained during the dieting period, the more potential for reductions (albeit subtle) in the experience of integrated hyperphagia. It would seem that a strong focus on time under tension (TUT) should be a core component of both the pre and post competition periods. Second, cardio should be maintained or even increased during the post-competition period to both compensate for involuntary bingeing as well as to perhaps inhibit the metabolic component that appears designed to facilitate fat storage (a more detailed discussion will be presented in a separate paper). Finally, an immediate change in training protocol is advised, as this will ‘freshen’ up the routine and prevent needless iterations of mental fatigue of having to perform the same routine - which can lead to an avoidance of the gym (isolation) and subsequent bingeing as discussed above.
 
Thermogenic supplementation, such as the EC(A) stack (and others) should be continued, possibly increased during this phase (consider 40mg ephedrine/day rather than 20mg). The reasoning is the same mentioned above in regards to cardio - the potential to short-circuit the metabolic component favoring fat storage in spite of increased DIT. Of course, abuse of any thermogenic during the dieting phase will reduce any gains one might make by increasing the dosage during the post-competition phase. That said much of the diet phase can proceed without the use of thermogenic aids, simply by maintaining a modest caloric deficit; restricting intake and increased energy expenditure.
 
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