Same sex marriages, good or bad

[justyxxxx]

Because they are logical conclusions. Polygamy is being argued in court because of the Texas sodomy case.



There are psychologists who are disagreeing with you, and me, and claiming that children should have the right to consensual sex with adults.



I have no problem with any contractual unions between people, two, three, men, women, just don't usurp a taken concept in attempt to gain acceptance. The special interest groups are against the idea of "civil unions" or other terms, even with equal benefits; this demonstrates some underlying agenda other than just "marriage".

You have a right to act without harming others; you don't have a right to be accepted. I will defend your right to do what you will, but I don't have to accept your position.

Ok - I'm gonna give this a rest. We're talking about billy goats being a logical choice now and I'm gonna call it quits on that one. Gay marriage and marrying billy goats are two different things but you can go ahead and go to that extreme if you wish. It is just that - an extreme.

I don't agree with 14 year olds having sex with men that are much older than them. I can see 18 year olds and 14 year olds, but a fucking 40 year old man and a 14 year old? No fucking way. You can think whatever you want but adult gays wanting to marry each other and this 14 year old having sex with adults argument are two separate issues that don't belong together. But as usual, something about the word gay somehow gets thrown in with adults having sex with children. Wrong way to go guys . . . it's not a valid argument. Once again, two totally separate issues.

 

[Longhorn85]

I see that you're avoiding my other posts to you . . . and there are plenty of "straight black men" that have HIV because of the way that they use their penis . . . Just the facts dude.

Not avoiding. I think everything you said has been addressed by me or shot down by ABL much more eloquently than I ever could.

Yes, there are many straight men who have been hit by AIDS. That does not change the fact that it has been an epidemic in the US only in the gay community and with IV drug users.

 

[justyxxxx]

Not avoiding. I think everything you said has been addressed by me or shot down by ABL much more eloquently than I ever could.

Yes, there are many straight men who have been hit by AIDS. That does not change the fact that it has been an epidemic in the US only in the gay community and with IV drug users.

Yeah - ok - let's start with my post rebutting your belief that businesses won't like giving benefits to gays. Then, let's move to my post dismissing your statement that kids raised by gay parents are screwed up? I'm sorry, you haven't even touched those and neither did ABL. Some of you are too busy talking about billy goats and sex with 14 year olds to address my arguments.

 

[Longhorn85]

Yeah - ok - let's start with my post rebutting your belief that businesses won't like giving benefits to gays. Then, let's move to my post dismissing your statement that kids raised by gay parents are screwed up? I'm sorry, you haven't even touched those and neither did ABL. Some of you are too busy talking about billy goats and sex with 14 year olds to address my arguments.

Why should businesses "give" benefits to gays any differently than any other non-married employee? Gays are not married under the definition of marriage.

A child raised by a gay couple will be raised in an abnormal environment. I don't think that is good for kids.

 

[justyxxxx]

Why should businesses "give" benefits to gays any differently than any other non-married employee? Gays are not married under the definition of marriage.

A child raised by a gay couple will be raised in an abnormal environment. I don't think that is good for kids.

They shouldn't. But they should give domestic partner benefits as I addressed in a previous post on the number of Fortune 500 companies that are already doing so. I don't want any special insurance benefits, for I am not married. But if I choose to get into a relationship and get married (or civil union), then that option should be available as it is with others. That's all. Plenty fair sounding enough to me . . .

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Why should businesses "give" benefits to gays any differently than any other non-married employee? Gays are not married under the definition of marriage.

A child raised by a gay couple will be raised in an abnormal environment. I don't think that is good for kids.

Well, so far quite a few gay marriages are married under the legal definition of marriage. And it's very likely to stand up in court as well.

I believe people have already posted studies refuting the assertion made about abnormal environments. Not to mention the single parent environments! Which are products of FAILED traditional marriages. Those have become the norm as have blended families.

I acknowledge that your personal belief is that it isn't good for kids. I don't agree with it, but I acknowledge that you have the right to believe that.

 

[Longhorn85]

Well, so far quite a few gay marriages are married under the legal definition of marriage. And it's very likely to stand up in court as well.

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The election will help decide which way we will ultimately go on this. Vote if you give a shit.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Well, so far quite a few gay marriages are married under the legal definition of marriage. And it's very likely to stand up in court as well.

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The election will help decide which way we will ultimately go on this. Vote if you give a shit.

I've voted since I was able. I've voted Republican since I was able to vote. This year will NOT be for a Republican. And I'll do what I can to help squash any constitutional ammendment reguarding gay marriage.

 

[atlantabiolab]

Yeah - ok - let's start with my post rebutting your belief that businesses won't like giving benefits to gays. Then, let's move to my post dismissing your statement that kids raised by gay parents are screwed up? I'm sorry, you haven't even touched those and neither did ABL. Some of you are too busy talking about billy goats and sex with 14 year olds to address my arguments.

You did not understand my point, which was not beastiality, but polygamy. It was the logical conclusion to gay marriage, since it has a greater acceptance in society, than beastiality, and is currently being addressed in court cases.

I have no problem with companies granting gay couples benefits, I think that contracts can be designed to address issues of death benefits, hospital visits, etc.

 

[Lady Godiva]

Being part of that whole 'i dont give a shit about social norms' generation i am in favor of same sex marriages because everyone involved wants to partake (the married people and the priest(s)).

Also, i don't get how this 'indignifies' marriage. Tons of marriages only occured because the bride got pregnant. Tons of women have gotten married mainly/solely for money. Tons of marriages end in divorce, or emotional/financial/physical abuse by both sides.

And tons end in divorce which usually mean that a couple says 'i do love you forever' a few years ago then they fight visciously over who gets the big screen tv a few years later. I remember when Eminem & his wife were getting a divorce (i didn't actively seek this info out it was right in front of me) eminem cut his wife's credit cards off so she tried to take away custody of his son, she was using his son to get money. How the fuck can you make something that less dignified?

Same sex marriages have no impact on my life. Queers in my province now have this right and I haven't grown a third arm since.