Same sex marriages, good or bad

[BO-DEN]

It is a documented fact that gay men and intraveneous drug users are the high risk groups in America. It is because of unprotected anal sex and promiscuity in the former and dirty needles in the latter.

Acually, black women are also on this list of high risk groups.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

You continue to present that sensational argument, but it doesn't fly. How can you compare someone being involuntarily taken away from his/her family and forced into degrading labor with someone who chooses to have deviant sex, and then tells the world about it expecting benefits?

You bring dishonor on the Civil Rights movement when you make that self-serving comparison.

Firstly I reject that it's deviant sex. Secondarily, as humans they have as many rights as you or anyone else does. Lastly, slavery ended after the civil war. The civil rights movement had nothing to do with slavery, since it didn't exist in America at the time the Civil Rights movement began.

I'm not sure how the argument is self-serving since I"m a complete heterosexual male.

Civil Rights brought up the injustices against the black people during that time. They were certainly not the only group, let alone the only ethnic group who were subject to injustice at the time or even today.

I don't expect that most religious groups/organizations/theologies will accept gay marriage, and frankly I don't care if they do or not. The governmental institution of paperwork representing marriage is another matter. That will and is changing, even if the US is lagging behind other parts of the world in the rights of these individuals.


BTW, you CHOOSE to be heterosexual.

 

[delete]

all for it and can't wait for it to happen

 

[Robert Jan]

I say we ban marriage all together

 

[avenirup]

The point of marriage is not only to procreate. There are many people that are choosing not to have kids now as well as couples that can't. Are they any less married? Marriage is a union of two people it is not some social contract saying we are going populate the earth. Gay people can have families much the way straight people do not that hard to find a sperm donor or a surrogate mother.
Come on ttlpkg I expected a much better argument from you here!

Perfectly said....

 

[bluepeter]

You continue to present that sensational argument, but it doesn't fly. How can you compare someone being involuntarily taken away from his/her family and forced into degrading labor with someone who chooses to have deviant sex, and then tells the world about it expecting benefits?

You bring dishonor on the Civil Rights movement when you make that self-serving comparison.

You continue to make ridiculous arguments on this topic. You wouldn't like it if you as an African American was being discriminated against so how can you discriminate against someone who is homosexual? Again, without reference to religious reasons.

There are no arguments that can be made here other than religious. If you take that out of the equation (as it should be), gay people should be able to have the same rights and benefits you do. If you don't want to call it marriage (some bullshit about 'preserving the sanctity', what a joke that is), then don't. Call it whatever you want but they should get the same rights as any 'normal' male/female couple.

 

[bluepeter]

whats to keep a couple of straights guys form "marrying" for awhile to enjoy the economic benefits?...say they are roommates for a couple of years and have figured if they marry one guy can carry the health insurance while the other guy takes care of the cable bill..they could get tax breaks....a couple of guys in med school or something...dudes doing a 2 year gig in alaska

What's to stop a male and a female from doing the same thing?

 

[biggest_man_in_the_world]

WTF?

Marriage always has been between a man and a woman, it is originally a religious ceremony. Why should ttlpkg not want to give reasons other than religious reasons? It's a religious fucking ceremony.

If the homos want to be recognised as officially a couple then I'm sure they're creative enough to think up something else without having to stir up contoversy by claiming they want to be married too.

Seriously "You may now kiss the uhhh...other husband"....just doesn't work....ridiculous.

 

[biggest_man_in_the_world]

BTW, you CHOOSE to be heterosexual.

Subconsciously Yes...What's your point?

 

[bluepeter]

WTF?

Marriage always has been between a man and a woman, it is originally a religious ceremony. Why should ttlpkg not want to give reasons other than religious reasons? It's a religious fucking ceremony.

If the homos want to be recognised as officially a couple then I'm sure they're creative enough to think up something else without having to stir up contoversy by claiming they want to be married too.

Seriously "You may now kiss the uhhh...other husband"....just doesn't work....ridiculous.

because dubya is trying to institute a constitutional ban on gay marriage and the only reasons he could be doing so are religious. Church and State are supposed to be separate. Human rights should trump religious 'sanctity' every time my friend. Also, I already acknowledged that if people such as yourself have a problem with the term 'marriage', call it something else. The fact remains that whatever such a union is called, they should be afforded the same rights as heterosexuals.