I'm trying to find a way around test mainly because of the side effects - most of which are quite visible. I have a well established network of clients, I am regarded as a fairly conservative person (the times when i did intesive body building including some use of aas is like 15-20 years behind) so I'm trying to avoid this body builder appearance that comes with the use of test (not to mention hairloss and acne - how an earth would I explain that ;-) Basically I'm looking for quality muscle development that does not show through a suit, but something that is solid as hell