Please help me locate a good bulking diet

[Redshoteye]

-you don't need 6 meals/day, you need a minimum of 3 and enough total calories When using same caloric intake, your meals will be used much more efficiently when spread out over 6 meals as opposed to 3. Its an easy way to spike metabolism because your body is digesting foods all throughout the day, all the while minimalizing fat storage because theres less time in between meals.

-that pre-workout meal looks good, but that's a lot of food for so close to before a workout..I'd probably have that 1.5 hours before training Around 45 minutes is enough time for your body to digest this amount of found, but waiting a little longer won't hurt.

-the whole point of using casein is so that you don't need to be getting protein throughout the night (as opposed to if you were using whey)...if you wake up to take a piss or something have some protein, but don't be setting an alarm and interrupting sleep for it Setting alarm clocks is unneccesary. Drink a majority of your shake before bedtime and sip the rest periodically whenever you wake to keep your stomach occupied and satiated.

Read above.

 

[Joe Stenson]

You spike metabolism more times...but each time is a smaller spike. Same end result.

If you want to make bogus arguments, here's one that considers the opposite point of view: You say there is less time to store fat because meals are closer together. When do you think fat is being used as fuel? Hint: Between meals.

I'm not saying you're better off eating less meals, just that it doesn't matter, and there's 2 reasons why.

 

[Gambino]

good shit guys, thanks for the advice

 

[Joe Stenson]

One more point to note regarding Catalyst's post: "your meals will be used much more efficiently when spread out over 6 meals as opposed to 3"

What evidence do you have for this?

The human body is EXTREMELY efficient at using what you give it. Think about how our ancestors used to eat. They might have gone days without much real food and then BAM! all of a sudden, one huge meal. Are you saying most of this food went to waste?

And you're going to say "oh well human beings have developed over time". Totally true. But do you realize how many generations it takes to change genes though? And how many generations have we been eating 6 meals/day for?...

On another note, I made one post in this thread that was uncalled for. If that's why I'm getting bombed, then fine I guess, although I think it's worked out now with Gambino. But if people are bombing me because I'm not quoting the same stuff they read in muscle magazines, then that's just lame. It's human nature to be stubborn, but these boards should be about having an open mind. So, when new information is presented to you, digest it and then respond as you see fit, hopefully in a way that stimulates an intelligent discussion.

 

[Gambino]

One more point to note regarding Catalyst's post: "your meals will be used much more efficiently when spread out over 6 meals as opposed to 3"

What evidence do you have for this?

The human body is EXTREMELY efficient at using what you give it. Think about how our ancestors used to eat. They might have gone days without much real food and then BAM! all of a sudden, one huge meal. Are you saying most of this food went to waste?

And you're going to say "oh well human beings have developed over time". Totally true. But do you realize how many generations it takes to change genes though? And how many generations have we been eating 6 meals/day for?...

On another note, I made one post in this thread that was uncalled for. If that's why I'm getting bombed, then fine I guess, although I think it's worked out now with Gambino. But if people are bombing me because I'm not quoting the same stuff they read in muscle magazines, then that's just lame. It's human nature to be stubborn, but these boards should be about having an open mind. So, when new information is presented to you, digest it and then respond as you see fit, hopefully in a way that stimulates an intelligent discussion.

no hard feelings bor i just wanted fresh perspective

 

[PatBateman3]

Gambino bombed me

 

[PatBateman3]

One more point to note regarding Catalyst's post: "your meals will be used much more efficiently when spread out over 6 meals as opposed to 3"

What evidence do you have for this?

The human body is EXTREMELY efficient at using what you give it. Think about how our ancestors used to eat. They might have gone days without much real food and then BAM! all of a sudden, one huge meal. Are you saying most of this food went to waste?

And you're going to say "oh well human beings have developed over time". Totally true. But do you realize how many generations it takes to change genes though? And how many generations have we been eating 6 meals/day for?...

On another note, I made one post in this thread that was uncalled for. If that's why I'm getting bombed, then fine I guess, although I think it's worked out now with Gambino. But if people are bombing me because I'm not quoting the same stuff they read in muscle magazines, then that's just lame. It's human nature to be stubborn, but these boards should be about having an open mind. So, when new information is presented to you, digest it and then respond as you see fit, hopefully in a way that stimulates an intelligent discussion.

I have read both sides and I have to say, Joe made me come around on this. It just makes sense. I'm not saying I am always going to go eat 3 meals/day, but I am going to worry a helluva lot less about getting 6-7 in. I'll probably end up around 3-5/day.

 

[pintoca]

Gambino, the issue with the diet is simple Bro... we don't know what you like and what you don't like to eat, so we can only provide baseline information for you to base your food-choices on. This mean, I could provide you with a daily caloric intake (based on your weight, BF% and activity level) and some ratios to go with it...

This does not mean you have to follow this blindly, at best, you can take this info with a grain of salt and use it as a starting point... the key here is: MONITOR YOUR RESULTS and adapt. No diet is the same to the other because no two persons are the same... what works for me might a disaster for you.

As for foods, you know the staples and basic rules: Lean Protein, Brown rice, a quality whole wheat bread, etc... no real surprises there...

so, what was your weight and bf% again? and how many times/week do you train?

For an idea on how a clean bulk looks like (again, not to follow blindly, you are not this guy) chech out the post here that say "How I gain 17 kilos in 7 months")

 

[Redshoteye]

One more point to note regarding Catalyst's post: "your meals will be used much more efficiently when spread out over 6 meals as opposed to 3"

What evidence do you have for this?

The human body is EXTREMELY efficient at using what you give it. Think about how our ancestors used to eat. They might have gone days without much real food and then BAM! all of a sudden, one huge meal. Are you saying most of this food went to waste?

And you're going to say "oh well human beings have developed over time". Totally true. But do you realize how many generations it takes to change genes though? And how many generations have we been eating 6 meals/day for?...

On another note, I made one post in this thread that was uncalled for. If that's why I'm getting bombed, then fine I guess, although I think it's worked out now with Gambino. But if people are bombing me because I'm not quoting the same stuff they read in muscle magazines, then that's just lame. It's human nature to be stubborn, but these boards should be about having an open mind. So, when new information is presented to you, digest it and then respond as you see fit, hopefully in a way that stimulates an intelligent discussion.

First off I'd like to see that source because if your aggressively BB you will not get away with three meals. Your body tends to store what it doesnt receive frequently, and by eating 6 meals a day your body will better utilize what you eat as opposed to storing it. I don't know how many other ways to say it.... unless you show me a source with CREDENTIALS you might as well continue being the minority on this issue.

Since you have trouble seeing this PROVEN (and I dont need a few paper champion "dieticians" to tell me otherwise, go to a gym and ask for yourself) method, say you mix a protein shake in a blender... your claim is that putting three scoops of protein all at once and chugging it down will have the same effect on the body as seperating it into 3 shakes (pre/pwo), which is UNTRUE... your body will utilize protein and its nutrients much better in smaller increments, and thats why after a certain amount whey can't be usefully digested (studies argue around 60-70g per meal). That being said, how would you even manage to get your caloric/carb/protein/fat intake all in just 3 meals?... especially if your lean mass is 200+

Your empty claims simply aren't good enough to outweigh the positives of this practice.

 

[Gambino]

Gambino, the issue with the diet is simple Bro... we don't know what you like and what you don't like to eat, so we can only provide baseline information for you to base your food-choices on. This mean, I could provide you with a daily caloric intake (based on your weight, BF% and activity level) and some ratios to go with it...

This does not mean you have to follow this blindly, at best, you can take this info with a grain of salt and use it as a starting point... the key here is: MONITOR YOUR RESULTS and adapt. No diet is the same to the other because no two persons are the same... what works for me might a disaster for you.

As for foods, you know the staples and basic rules: Lean Protein, Brown rice, a quality whole wheat bread, etc... no real surprises there...

so, what was your weight and bf% again? and how many times/week do you train?

For an idea on how a clean bulk looks like (again, not to follow blindly, you are not this guy) chech out the post here that say "How I gain 17 kilos in 7 months")

lift about 3-4 times a week, height/weight around 5'9'' 185...actually weighed closer to 190 today. I know what i need to do, I need to be more consistent. I'll eat good for a few days then fuck up for a day, setting my back. A bad eat day for me is just not eating enough.