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[Arioch]

My son made his best progress to date on a straight periodized program. Very few things changed, but then he also had the recovery ability of a seventeen year-old. Many of the assistance exercises are used in WSB, but the focus was on improving his skill at pushing heavy weights in the contested lifts.

Sample:

Monday:
Deadlift
Front Squat
Shrugs
Reverse hypers
abs
calves

Wednesday
Bench
Close Grip Incline
Extensions
Chins
Rows
External Rotator work
Grip work

Friday
Squat
Pause Squat
Good mornings
reverse hypers
abs and calves

Saturday
Press
Tricep extensions
Chins
Rows

After three weeks, the assistance work would change, and the pressing exercise on Saturday would rotate from press, to snatch grip press behind the neck, to push press, etc. Extensions varied, but the same type were done on each day for three weeks, then rotated as well.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Uh I hate to state the obvious but Endpoint was joking around.....hence the laughter after the 'evil' statement.

In a way yourself and Endpoint are saying the same thing......you both agree that there is more than one way to do things. Endpoint was simply enquiring about what methods other than Westside people on this board use. I don't see the problem with that......it certainly didn't deserve a comment about him protesting too much.

I get heated up because of statements like this. I don't care if endpoint uses westide or not, he is talking smack about it. I don't see how somebody can use a method, yet say that it is evil. Perhaps you (endpoint) don't really use this method at all?? I could not say, I don't know you.

I use Westside because a group of knowledgable powerlifters rescued me from lifting puny weights at the YMCA. Doing BB stuff. Sure, there might be some things that deliver, and make people stronger. May of them produce world champions... Guess what!!! There is more than one road to Rome. Talking down something because you have a thing against fads or what not, things that work, only makes you look churlish and frankly an ignoramus.
Westside is not the only way, I don't think ANYBODY is saying that, only that it is a viable option with alot of evidence of it working. And works good from what I can tell. So what If old school methods work, use them both when one stops working, because guess what? Eventually you will hit a plateau and you will no doubt have to choose another method. There is no Miracle method that works forever. The body adapts.

 

[spatts]

I agree.

 

[kyle]

If it were sarcasm you wouldn't be debating against WSB so much. No, I think you have a conviction about what you are debating. You hate WS.


Listen Pal, I don't know you from jack. I have been weight training for about 4 fucking months ok? I don't know enough about lifting weights to formulate my own work out routines, and I imagine that your pathetic attempts at thinking outside the box consist of mindlessly following somebody elses thoughts, not your own. A white belt does not know enought about martial arts to invent his own.

Lighten up? Lighten up? Oh, swell, come in here and call me a fucking sheep for following a certain weight routine, tell me to think outside the box, be different, and then when I get offended you say it is sarcasm. Pah, you sir are a troll and an asshole worthy of SSalexSS rank. Fuck you.

whoa, check yourself into a mental institution man, he was just joking

psycho!!!

 

[spatts]

Yeah...slightly uncalled for. This guy isn't a newbie, nor does he deserve being compared to the likes of SS. I don't know if it's a full moon or what, but it seems like every major thread on every board has someone just getting bent out of shape over nothing.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Epimetheus.......

I think that you need to take a step back so that you can reassess what you have written in this thread. I'm sure that you are smart enough to see that you are starting to act like a jerk.

It is an unwritten rule that on this board we try to avoid personal attacks.....sure some joking around goes on......but we avoid the hostile stuff. Aside from that, Endpoint has been a valued member of this board for some time.....I can't remembr the last time he gave out bad advice or refused to keep an open mind. Give the guy a break.....

If you would like to know Endpoint's agenda......here is my take on it- This board is full of people who follow WS methods. So much so that those that use other methods don't often get their voices heard. Endpoint was giving everybody a chance to tell the board about their training.......I'm sure that you will agree that it is a good thing for the alternative training methods to be discussed. I for one think that this thread was a good idea. He doesn't hate WS......if he says that he uses it then why doubt him?? You have only been here for a short time.....get to know the guy before you judge him.

And......that was sarcasm that he was using!!!

 

[spatts]

If we could get back to the point, I'd also be interested in how those that don't use WSB, or a personal interpretation of WSB, train...

 

[Imnotdutch]

"If we could get back to the point, I'd also be interested in how those that don't use WSB, or a personal interpretation of WSB, train..."

I suspect that most people who train using other methods wont bother to answer now.......the good that this thread might have done is being lost because of the reactions of the minority. Incidentally, it is this type of reaction that keeps many non-WS trainers quiet normally.

I for one can't be bothered to explain my training (you aren't missing much) when I know that it is likely that I will be met by somebody acting like a 5 year old. I have better things to do with my time (like contemplating my navel and why I have one).

Disclaimer: Although I quoted Spatterson at the top of the post, none of the negative comments concerning WS were directed at her, or for that matter, the majority of people who follow WS here. I have found the majority to be very open-minded in the way they respond to others on this board.

 

[spatts]

Sorry, to hear that dutch. I'd really like to know what you do.




...usually if I pout, the guy caves in.

 

[I'D RATHER BE DEADLIFTING]

Dutch- just stop talking about it and get back to the topic. Was it necessary to make like 5 posts about it?


I have recently f'ed up my training split, but once this meet is over I will be back on a basic Westside split, with of course our personal modifications(I don't have access to all the equipment that I'd like).