Need some diet (and food) help

[needtogetaas]

they are ok. they are dried and eating them is verry similar to taking vitamins. it is better to eat fresh raw veggies to get these same nutrients it a higher quality.

Aside from salt. What fresh spice in any amount is bad for you???????????????????? I mean some can be hard on ulcers lol but aside from that please tell me what fresh spice is bad for you in any amount?

garlic? hell no
basil? please
Tyme? your joking right?
I mean what fresh or even dehydreaded spice in any amount besides salt is bad for you? Please provide medical references/ studies.

As far as spices go I have seen nothing but positive studies by the billions. I have yet to see even one that is negative

 

[needtogetaas]

i dont need to eat SUPER clean. and yea i know that is basically the impossible joed to eat super clena and have it taste great and be easy to make. just wanted a few recipes that maybe im missing out on.

I bought the book but it sso hard for me to read that huge text file. Is it just me or shouldn't there be pages, like there is a table of contents but yea.

print it out. If you can not print it out I will send you a file that you can print out. It should be pretty easy to read the recipes in the book.

 

[joe d]

print it out. If you can not print it out I will send you a file that you can print out. It should be pretty easy to read the recipes in the book.

well first i didnt say that seasonongs are bad for you. what i said wasall of the extra stuff was harmful in a diet that already includes the nutrients they carry and at a much higher quality. some extras like fillers would be far worst for other reasons. it also wasnt a generalised statement. it was related to the #1 post.

so here is the reasoning in a better detail. if you are trying to keep maximum muscle and lose fat or gain muscle and not fat, the practical aproach is to only consume what you need and from the best sources. this way there is no extras that arent needed being stored or using up your metabolism to burn through foods that you dont need. so if you are eating a fresh raw plant for the same nutrients that a seasoning has than you are taking in more of that nutrient than you need. so cut some. what do you cut? the dried crap. it holds little value when compared to the fresh plant and again more than you need of it means more to digest. it works against the goals. success with the bodies aperance is about knowing exactly what it needs to get the results and limiting yourself to the best quality of those things. when i want to shed fat i eat chickens i killed minutes ago, drink little milk that comes straight from a cow, pure water, organic whole oats, day old fresh eggs, almost rare organic beef, fresh organic veggies completely raw and only enough of those things to acheive my goals. these foods are packed full of what i need so i need less of them. my body has more energy to do other things because of it. the result is in my avi. a few months of extremely strict diet is where its at.

you know im not a coppy and paste study buff so thats not going to happen. i dont read studies because half are true and half are bs. if you want to know if something works or not you have to use logic and self study.

 

[needtogetaas]

well first i didnt say that seasonongs are bad for you. what i said wasall of the extra stuff was harmful in a diet that already includes the nutrients they carry and at a much higher quality. some extras like fillers would be far worst for other reasons. it also wasnt a generalised statement. it was related to the #1 post.

so here is the reasoning in a better detail. if you are trying to keep maximum muscle and lose fat or gain muscle and not fat, the practical aproach is to only consume what you need and from the best sources. this way there is no extras that arent needed being stored or using up your metabolism to burn through foods that you dont need. so if you are eating a fresh raw plant for the same nutrients that a seasoning has than you are taking in more of that nutrient than you need. so cut some. what do you cut? the dried crap. it holds little value when compared to the fresh plant and again more than you need of it means more to digest. it works against the goals. success with the bodies aperance is about knowing exactly what it needs to get the results and limiting yourself to the best quality of those things. when i want to shed fat i eat chickens i killed minutes ago, drink little milk that comes straight from a cow, pure water, organic whole oats, day old fresh eggs, almost rare organic beef, fresh organic veggies completely raw and only enough of those things to acheive my goals. these foods are packed full of what i need so i need less of them. my body has more energy to do other things because of it. the result is in my avi. a few months of extremely strict diet is where its at.

you know im not a coppy and paste study buff so thats not going to happen. i dont read studies because half are true and half are bs. if you want to know if something works or not you have to use logic and self study.

So in other words using fresh plants,herbs,spices is perfectly fine. Which any chef will tell you makes food taste that much better anyway. Dried is not much worse then fresh but if you say so. For taste reasons fresh is better and will just day for health reasons fresh herbs,spice,plants are better.

Were talking about Micro grams of calls here now Joe-d when it comes to spicing up some food. Aside from salt.

There is no reason what so ever to have to eat bland food. Again just a very small about of fresh spices can make a wold of difference. And from a body building stand point i can start posting up how healthy spices are and how some can even positively effect muscle growth.

We are talking 1 2 cals worth of a spice which in the overall picture of cals in cals out means nothing but for there healthy properties can make a big impact. A much bigger positive impact then there caloric value

 

[joe d]

its not that minor. it is not just cals in cals out and minute amounts, and again i wasnt just pin pointing seasonings. if you add up all the little unneeded things from every meal of every day for a month of cutting there is a clear difference from eating clean and eating extremely clean. i dont see how im doing it but i must be making my statement wrong. im speaking of all of the extra things we as people like to add to our foods while trying to eat clean like processed milk, breads, resteraunt imitation foods, frozen veggies, dried seasonings, ect. i am not attacking your post needto im still trying to clarify the difference between wholesome food and garbage. a plastic shaker bottle of any seasoning is shit when compared to its fresh raw plant. so if you need the nutrients from oregano then use fresh organic oregano to get what you need if you want to eat really clean and get the most from your diet. ruling out all minor improvements and just sticking to the basics winds up putting you at about 50% of where you could be. if anyone cant understand that than im going to have to say they have never tried it.

its simple. easy meals mean using less than the best of foods. it is easy to shake some powder on some chicken you picked up at costco. it is not easy to go to a specialty foods store (or raise your own) chicken buy fresh organic veggies to make the same ingredients as the shaker shit then chop it all up and cook it with your chicken to flavor it. then their is the difference with the easy frozen or canned veggies compared to raw organic and eating it that way. there is a huge difference. i dont need a book or a thousand people to confirm i have done both and still sometimes get to buisy and have to go bach to the super maket shit way and the results are proven to me every time.

 

[needtogetaas]

its not that minor. it is not just cals in cals out and minute amounts, and again i wasnt just pin pointing seasonings. if you add up all the little unneeded things from every meal of every day for a month of cutting there is a clear difference from eating clean and eating extremely clean. i dont see how im doing it but i must be making my statement wrong. im speaking of all of the extra things we as people like to add to our foods while trying to eat clean like processed milk, breads, resteraunt imitation foods, frozen veggies, dried seasonings, ect. i am not attacking your post needto im still trying to clarify the difference between wholesome food and garbage. a plastic shaker bottle of any seasoning is shit when compared to its fresh raw plant. so if you need the nutrients from oregano then use fresh organic oregano to get what you need if you want to eat really clean and get the most from your diet. ruling out all minor improvements and just sticking to the basics winds up putting you at about 50% of where you could be. if anyone cant understand that than im going to have to say they have never tried it.

its simple. easy meals mean using less than the best of foods. it is easy to shake some powder on some chicken you picked up at costco. it is not easy to go to a specialty foods store (or raise your own) chicken buy fresh organic veggies to make the same ingredients as the shaker shit then chop it all up and cook it with your chicken to flavor it. then their is the difference with the easy frozen or canned veggies compared to raw organic and eating it that way. there is a huge difference. i dont need a book or a thousand people to confirm i have done both and still sometimes get to buisy and have to go bach to the super maket shit way and the results are proven to me every time.

I like to think of it like this.

If it comes in a can,bottle,bag,or a box then don't use it. Eat everything as close to its natural state as you can. Ie spices,herbs,veggies right off the plant or as close to it as one can get. Meats fresh and off the bone. Fruits in there whole form not prosecced. You know the way nature and god intended it to be.

The more it has to be altered or processed in anyway the worse it is for you. If one would eat like they were living off the land they would be eating as healthy as they could.

If you thought of it like "if I could have picked this myself,killed this myself or grew it myself" then you are eating as healthy as one can eat.

To make it simple "natural" eating. And yes you can still eat natural with the food tasting good.