Most overrated exercises.......

[Ash]

I feel that alot of machines are over-rated these days.
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"Names Ash....Housewares"

 

[SSAlexSS]

I feel that alot of machines are over-rated these days.
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"Names Ash....Housewares"

Like dorian yates says:


"Your muscles dont feel a difference between free weights, machine or a spice girl. All they feel is weight" .


SO no he doesnt say that machines are overrated.

 

[VicTusDeuS]

well with the way i squat on the machine, when im on my way back up im usually using so much force pushing myself back up and out that i bush the hole machine instead of the bar..

 

[b fold the truth]

SSAlexSS: I have Dorians Book "Blood and Guts"...and the only machines that he was using in them...were some old hardcore machines. Not the sissy ones I see today. The bic curl or tric pressdown machine will never be as effective as a bar or a dbell...never.

B True

 

[Screwball]

b fold is right. I believe Dorian used the old Nautilus machines. I've used these machines personally and they are far superior to the Icarian, Cybex, etc... machines made today for the average weight trainer. These machines had huge weight stacks for heavy, intense lifting. They also mimic the natural strength curve overloading the muscle throughout the entire range of motion. Don't be fooled. Dorian was old school and he trained using the basic compound movements. This is one of the main reasons that he was a champion and his physique dominated his competitors.

- Screwball

 

[NFG123]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Most overrated exercises.......

Let me elaborate ...

IF you know how to do stuff you can get lots of mass with isolation movements, sometimes even more than with compound movements.

I agree. Since Ive stoppe doing compound movements and started doing ONLY drop sets of machine flyes for chest, my pecs have grown like WILD FIRE!

Isolation movements rule ... leg extensions for quads is far better than squats. Crossovers are better than incline and goodmornings blow deadlifts out of the water!

NFG

 

[b fold the truth]

 

[NFG123]

 

[Arioch]

THERE WERE incidence when determination overcame some physical proportions. Liek women lifting cars to get their children out.

Alex, you really should learn to actually research.

While these sort of things have occured, what happens afterward?

Dramatic pause.

Most of these people have crippled themselves. The mechanism that protect us from injuring ourselves are there for a reason, such as to, oddly enough, protect us from injuring ourselves.

While amazing feats are possible through activation of the adrenal response, there are always consequences. And when one lifts beyond what their physical structure can handle, the structure is damaged.

 

[Lumberg]

...post em.


Straight-bar Curls
Pulldowns
Flat Barbell Bench

Wow, I definitely disagree with the second 2. Pulldowns are good for people who can't do more than a couple pull ups yet and flat bench is a great compound movement. Yeah it turns into a pissing contest at times but you can vary your grip to target different muscles and there's always a bench even in the shittiest gym.

My most overrated exercises are any curls done standing up--way too easy to cheat.

I don't think incline presses are all that great.

Ab machines are USELESS!

JC