Most overrated exercises.......

[b fold the truth]

Pissing contest? lol I tend to agree with you...but think that it works on all exercises. People who do not do the flat bench press tend to label it as a "pissing contest" exercise.

Crunches are highly overrated. Full range sit-ups are a must in my opinion.

B True

 

[Lumberg]

Pissing contest? lol I tend to agree with you...but think that it works on all exercises. People who do not do the flat bench press tend to label it as a "pissing contest" exercise.

Crunches are highly overrated. Full range sit-ups are a must in my opinion.

B True

Wow. You're the first person I've heard say that in a LONG time. What is your rationale?

The things I've heard against full range sit-ups are 1) they're bad for your back and 2) There's not that much stress on your abs the last bit of the way up so you might as well just do the "hard" part of the exercise.

Would like to hear the positives.

JC

 

[b fold the truth]

Louie Simmons suggests to do full range sit ups too...and so do all of his powerlifters.

It is key to train your abs in a full range of motion. If they hurt your back...then something is weak..right? That should point out a big red flag to you...if it hurts your back...it needs to be strengthened. When my back hurts...full range sit ups are about the only thing that will give it relief.

The number 1 reason for a bad back is weak abs. Not non-defined, non-pretty abs...WEAK abs. Strengthen all of them. Crunches are the concentration curl of the abs. They may burn...but they are easy. Never forget that we live in a society of quick fix through making things EASY.

Here is an article or two...

http://www.musclemonthly.com/articles/010115/010115-tate-westside-powerlifting.htm

Shoot...the other pages are temp down...I'll see if I can find some more.

B True

 

[ZZuluZ]

BTrue,

Sit-ups are not very useful to the bodybuilder. They train the hip flexors and obliques, not the abs.

They are a very good movement however.

-Zulu

 

[b fold the truth]

BTrue,

Sit-ups are not very useful to the bodybuilder. They train the hip flexors and obliques, not the abs.

They are a very good movement however.

-Zulu

So do squats, deads, walking...etc. If you feel them in your hip flexors...that means that you have weak hip flexors which will affect your strength in the squat, dead, and overall back and ab strength. Not having obliques will not get you very far in bodybuilding either...I see the pics of the pros...and they have obliques.

B True

 

[ZZuluZ]

Because they diet.

It does work your hip flexors. It's not a question of 'feeling it there'.

My point was: It is not a necessary ab exercise for bodybuilders.

-Zulu

 

[Lumberg]

Because they diet.

It does work your hip flexors. It's not a question of 'feeling it there'.

My point was: It is not a necessary ab exercise for bodybuilders.

-Zulu

B fold is not a bodybuilder. He is a soon-to-be World's Strongest Man. I think that it is apparent even if this thread is the only thing you've read on here that he is talking more about powerlifting than bodybuilding. He even makes the distinction between "pretty abs" and "strong abs." Therefore, if you want to squat and deadlift heavy, maybe you should consider incorporating situps into your schedule. Otherwise, don't worry about it.

JC

 

[bigguns7]

Decline bench press, flat barbell bench, hammer strength rows.

 

[b fold the truth]

I am far from a bodybuilder guys...I really am. I do believe that the hip flexors are muscles that most people avoid because they feel that they should avoid them. Remember...we are all a part of the sport of progressive resistance training...that means progrressively heavier and more intense weight training. The hip flexors help with the body's ability to train all of those muscles.

Full range sit ups also re-align the lower back.

B True

 

[ZZuluZ]

Hey guys.... [bfold and joncrane] I'm all with you guys. Situps are great. But most people on this board are BODYBUILDERS so I was just putting things in perspective.

-Zulu