huh??? I dont sep. the two, was that directed towards me?? I eat with them, my parents are both more cauitous about their food consumption than I am...well, almost.....I go to clubs, raves, etc......just don't booze.....I'm not a hermit by any means bro.......cutting to a degree is SIMPLE....once you reach a point where you stall (i.e. 10%) it's pure hell..........