Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below yes, 16 sets for large bodyparts, 12 for small. it has worked very good for me, i am very satisfied with my bodybuilding progress so far. i agree with high intensity to an extent, i think ppl rely way too much on overtraining and end up undertraining, yes dont do bodyparts 3 times a week i dont agree with taht, but ppl that only do like 6 sets on biceps or somethingl ike that, i wouldnt even feel like i worked them after about 10 min. later. i think some ppl use overtraining as an excuse to lower their time in the gym, i will probably get disagreement over this. i am not saying that it is hard to overtrain, i reccoment bodyparts once a week, but i do also reccoment 12 sets for small, 16 for large.
Important question about OVERTRAINING!
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i just think this whole overtraining is overdone
im not on gear im a nati, i train for 2 hours a day
at this moment im on no supps or even whey protien, all my lifts r up and im more vascular and ripped then ever,,,its arnolds program and it works for me...its only 2 exercises for each body part, but the program is all intertwined
im not on gear im a nati, i train for 2 hours a day
at this moment im on no supps or even whey protien, all my lifts r up and im more vascular and ripped then ever,,,its arnolds program and it works for me...its only 2 exercises for each body part, but the program is all intertwined
2 hours? - You've got a great hormonal environment workin for ya there.
All of Arnold's routines have way too much volume. Only someone on gear would be able to not overtrain on them.
But, I guess if that works for you, keep doing it. I won't be able to convince you otherwise anyway.
All of Arnold's routines have way too much volume. Only someone on gear would be able to not overtrain on them.
But, I guess if that works for you, keep doing it. I won't be able to convince you otherwise anyway.
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i have great genetics
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The term "overtraining" is the most abused, overused, and misused term on this board. Once you have entered the severly catabolic state of overtraining, YOU WILL KNOW IT.
Overtraining is characterized by several symptoms: inability to sleep, higher than normal resting heart rate, weakened immune system (due to lowered glutamine levels), irritability, difficulty concentrating, fatigue, loss of training motivation, erectile impotence, etc. Of course, not all these symptoms are mutually exclusive. Some overtrainers may experience only a few while someone else may feel the brunt of most of them.
Basically, endogenous testosterone plummets, blood cortisol levels (stress hormone) rise, and the body's hormonal environment becomes extremely catabolic. So much so that further training, even at low volume/low intensity levels only exacerbate the situation. Extended rest is the only solution for the overtrainer.
I have seen very few who actually reach this state. It takes an an athlete with incredible drive to do so. In fact it is much more commonly seen in professional-level athletics than weekend warriors. Overtraining is chronic in nature, not acute. In other words, you can't just "overtrain" one day at the gym. It takes months, sometimes a few years of overtaxing the body's recuperative abilities to achieve this. Of course, the the rate at which an athlete will become overtrained is depedent upon a host of variables. Genetics, body type, metabolism, nutrition, AAS usage, periodization schemes, recovery time, training volume, training intensity, mental stresses, etc all contribute to how quickly one will become overtrained given that the body cannot recover from given exercise stimuli over the long-run.
"Overreaching" is what most people mistakingly refer to as "overtraining." Overreaching is acute in nature. That is, one can easily overreach within one workout. When an athlete trains beyond their optimal training zone in terms of volume (which will be set primarily by the above mentined factors), that athlete has overreached. Will they suffer the symptoms of overtraining? No. If these training habits continue? Yes. Again though, it may take some time for these symptoms to become evident.
Which makes it difficult to answer your question. It sounds like you are more concerned with overreaching than anything. Many times, people will post questions similar to yours, asking if they are overtraining or not when in reality all they want to know is if they are training optimally for hypertrophy (tissue growth) or not. Again, it's hard to say. It will depend upon the above variables which are all unique to you. No one else will have the same genetics as you , no one else will eat just like you, and no one else will train exactly like you.
Bodybuilding is a journey is self-discovery.
Overtraining is characterized by several symptoms: inability to sleep, higher than normal resting heart rate, weakened immune system (due to lowered glutamine levels), irritability, difficulty concentrating, fatigue, loss of training motivation, erectile impotence, etc. Of course, not all these symptoms are mutually exclusive. Some overtrainers may experience only a few while someone else may feel the brunt of most of them.
Basically, endogenous testosterone plummets, blood cortisol levels (stress hormone) rise, and the body's hormonal environment becomes extremely catabolic. So much so that further training, even at low volume/low intensity levels only exacerbate the situation. Extended rest is the only solution for the overtrainer.
I have seen very few who actually reach this state. It takes an an athlete with incredible drive to do so. In fact it is much more commonly seen in professional-level athletics than weekend warriors. Overtraining is chronic in nature, not acute. In other words, you can't just "overtrain" one day at the gym. It takes months, sometimes a few years of overtaxing the body's recuperative abilities to achieve this. Of course, the the rate at which an athlete will become overtrained is depedent upon a host of variables. Genetics, body type, metabolism, nutrition, AAS usage, periodization schemes, recovery time, training volume, training intensity, mental stresses, etc all contribute to how quickly one will become overtrained given that the body cannot recover from given exercise stimuli over the long-run.
"Overreaching" is what most people mistakingly refer to as "overtraining." Overreaching is acute in nature. That is, one can easily overreach within one workout. When an athlete trains beyond their optimal training zone in terms of volume (which will be set primarily by the above mentined factors), that athlete has overreached. Will they suffer the symptoms of overtraining? No. If these training habits continue? Yes. Again though, it may take some time for these symptoms to become evident.
Which makes it difficult to answer your question. It sounds like you are more concerned with overreaching than anything. Many times, people will post questions similar to yours, asking if they are overtraining or not when in reality all they want to know is if they are training optimally for hypertrophy (tissue growth) or not. Again, it's hard to say. It will depend upon the above variables which are all unique to you. No one else will have the same genetics as you , no one else will eat just like you, and no one else will train exactly like you.
Bodybuilding is a journey is self-discovery.
110% said:
Okay, why not 17 and 13 or 15 and 11? I suggest working out until you lose consciousness, then when you wake up get a drink of water, and then repeat. Now, I figure since one day really doesn't give me that much rest, I just go ahead and train 7 days a week. I do alternate between upperbody and lowerbody each day. To make sure that I don't do too much, I take my birthday and all federal holidays off. Also, since losing consciousness can be dangerous, I highly recommend a training partner and be careful not to be doing free weight exercises once you start feeling the initial stages of wooziness. One other pointer, it can be helpful to wear a helmet of some sort, motorcycle or bicycle, whatever. Gotta protect that melon you know.
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