I Want To Get Bigger - Naturally!

[Super Girl 22]

ATTN: SUPERGIRL

SORRY I QUOTED THE WRONG PERSON ON THAT LAST REPLY. THAT IS ADDRESSED TO "SUPERGIRL" WHO CLAIMS THAT I AM A POSER. IF YOU ONLY KNEW ME...

 

[Exodus]

SSAlexSS......... i agree with a lot of what you say

but im with Valdez on this one........ he outlined my training program....i train 4 days.......... mon,tues,thurs,friday ............i have been training several differnent ways for years........ but i swapped to this 15 weeks ago....... i have improved every week.

i went from 180 to 208(a lot of that is my diet though)... my arms went up a inch and half......... chest 3.......... calves 2 inch....... and thighs 3.......... granted my waist is also larger but hey you cant have the good without the bad i suppose...........

but i love it......... some lifts that improved i went from 135 butt to the floor squat for 10 reps to 315 butt to the floor for 4 reps.

70lb db bench for 10 reps, to 115 lb db bench for 4 reps.

and one of the most impressive (at least to me)......... is 45lb ez curl for 10 reps to 125lb ez curl for 4 reps.

so you cant say it is not working........ but i think nutrition is the main part of all growing....... pretty much any time of training will stimulate the muscle but its what goes in your mouth and the amount of rest time you get that will make you grow

simple formula:

1....stimulate the muscle (i.e. working out)
2....allow time to recover.....(let the muscle catch back up to where it was preworkout)
3....allow time to grow....(the most import but also most neglected)

happy lifting

 

[MrMuscle]

Re: ATTN: SUPERGIRL

SORRY I QUOTED THE WRONG PERSON ON THAT LAST REPLY. THAT IS ADDRESSED TO "SUPERGIRL" WHO CLAIMS THAT I AM A POSER. IF YOU ONLY KNEW ME...

hehe ok..i was starting to wonder what i said that was so wrong

 

[MonStar1023]

And creatine costs are 49 dollars if not more. And I never said that creatine = no gains.

Plain creatine monohydrate is not $49... not even from GNC which is probably the biggest ripoff Ive ever seen in my life.

 

[supergirl]

i want to hear the comments when i'm walking on the beach "damn, that girl works out!!" i look good and toned now but i want a bit more....not too much or anything masculine

you said it, not me... you want the comments

so i am LMAO at you

BITCH.... Babe In Total Control of Herself... thanks for the compliment un-supergirl

 

[RealDeal]

SSAlexSS......... i agree with a lot of what you say

Are you kidding me bro? SSAlexSS - I don't know where in the hell you're coming up with this shit. First off, MonStar was being very cordial in refuting your opinions until your blatant arrogance lit his fuse...and I don't blame him.

You have to be a complete and total ass to sit there and tell everyone on this board that by working out more than 2x/week that they're not going to make any growth gains, but just get fat. I've never heard such a load of horse shit in my life, and I've heard a LOT. As others have said, myself included, working out 4x/week is great. I do a Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri workout week and I've made gains nearly every week. Just these past 4 weeks I've gained over 5 pounds, and little, if any, is fat. I can see that when I look in the mirror. Granted it's been after being off for a while, but regardless. Your dumbass comments are telling at least 80% of the people on here that they're training wrong. On the contrary, how wrong you are!

As MonStar said, you must be the odd man out, because I've never heard of someone training 2x/week and making gains. Go up to guys in your gym YOU think have obviously made good gains and ask 'em how many times they work out per week. I guarantee you you'll be hard pressed to find someone who agrees with you. It's nice that works for you, but for the majority of us, we'll stick to our 3, 4 or 5x/week...thanks. Keep your trap shut if you're going to tell everyone who disagrees with you they're wrong.

Oh yeah, and you can get 1000g of brand name creatine for around $25, so get off that $49 B.S.

Originally posted by Super Girl 22
First of all, i'm far from a poser. and i'm not in it for the looks. i get those without working out so dont try to play yourself. i love the sport and i love what i get out of it. i've learned how to deal with my stress and aggravation in a productive way plus i love the feeling i have when i walk out of the gym after an intense workout. so stop being a bitch

LOL! Don't take too much offense. She's just pissed because there's someone else with the words "super" and "girl" in their nick. I don't have anything against you Supergirl, but don't make the mistake of judging someone you don't know over as petty an issue as a screen name...seriously. Who gives a shit if she'd like some comments? Many people would. If pride in what you've accomplished is to be beaten down, you best start in on a hell of a lot of others on these boards. This doesn't mean someone's in it just for the looks & comments. I'll take 'em as icing on the cake.

 

[SSAlexSS]

Okay SSAlexSS we get your opinion you think it's difficult for naturals to pull off 4 efficient workouts a week. Well here is my opinion: YOUR WRONG. 4 days a week is great! 5 is too much 3 too little 4 is darn perfect. Mon, Tue... Thur, Fri... And also that quote "workouts are best infrequent and brief" is a bunch of bullshit that is spawned from a moron named mike mentzer who realistically did not have a better physique than any good quality high volume pro back in the day... also for your info: Mike mentzer, Arnold, and all of those pros were JUICED TO THE MAX!!!!

workouts are best brief, and CONSISTENT. Consistency is the key to bodybuilding. Btw: I really enjoy your posts SSAlexSS, seriously.

don't even get me started on Ayn Rand and her bullshit beliefs! (not that you are a fan or anything she just came to mind)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, ooooohhh I haven't vented in these forums in a while.

Ok, 4 days per week may work for you. We don';t argue that. But the real 'issue" here is how supergirl22 should train. And 4 days a week might be a bad idea for many people, obviously not for you or MonSTar.

About Mike Mentzer: Yes, he did not have a better phisique that arnold. But thats genetics for you, Arnold was definately superior (Geneticly wise). Infact the best phisiques give you WORST ADVICES.
Some people can progress despite of themselves, while some people have to actually do work and do their research. And if a person DOES NOT KNOW HOW HE GOT TO MR OLYMPIA TITLE, how do you expect him to help you? Or trasining like that? And like some HIT guy said "Conventional training occupies so much time that those who win great titles using conventional training, cannot really be winners."

Please ask yourself this question; "Am I progressing EACH WEEK?" If you said yes then it is okay.

Please don't think I am **** or something. Everyone has theirs ideas, and I like to discuss that....


have a good day VALDEZ.

 

[SSAlexSS]

Plain creatine monohydrate is not $49... not even from GNC which is probably the biggest ripoff Ive ever seen in my life.

Maybe in USA it is 25. But not in Canada.

 

[supergirl]

LOL! Don't take too much offense. She's just pissed because there's someone else with the words "super" and "girl" in their nick. I don't have anything against you Supergirl, but don't make the mistake of judging someone you don't know over as petty an issue as a screen name...seriously. Who gives a shit if she'd like some comments? Many people would. If pride in what you've accomplished is to be beaten down, you best start in on a hell of a lot of others on these boards. This doesn't mean someone's in it just for the looks & comments. I'll take 'em as icing on the cake.

awe... coming to her defense.. how knightly of you i need a tissue...

and you are right!!! Pride in your accomplishments is awesome, but do if for yourself, not for the benefit of other people, because if you spend your entire life trying to impress other people, then you are only defeating yourself and getting artificial pride... Self pride and worth is almost a spiritual thing.. it comes from the self and not outside-validation... just some food for thought..

So supergirl22... i am glad to read that you have found lifting as a stress release but i just see too many girls that go to the gym just to say they belong to a gym... so if you really lift then kudos to you.. & YES i am busting your balls on the name... it was mine first LOL

 

[SSAlexSS]

SSAlexSS......... i agree with a lot of what you say

but im with Valdez on this one........ he outlined my training program....i train 4 days.......... mon,tues,thurs,friday ............i have been training several differnent ways for years........ but i swapped to this 15 weeks ago....... i have improved every week.

i went from 180 to 208(a lot of that is my diet though)... my arms went up a inch and half......... chest 3.......... calves 2 inch....... and thighs 3.......... granted my waist is also larger but hey you cant have the good without the bad i suppose...........

but i love it......... some lifts that improved i went from 135 butt to the floor squat for 10 reps to 315 butt to the floor for 4 reps.

70lb db bench for 10 reps, to 115 lb db bench for 4 reps.

and one of the most impressive (at least to me)......... is 45lb ez curl for 10 reps to 125lb ez curl for 4 reps.

so you cant say it is not working........ but i think nutrition is the main part of all growing....... pretty much any time of training will stimulate the muscle but its what goes in your mouth and the amount of rest time you get that will make you grow

simple formula:

1....stimulate the muscle (i.e. working out)
2....allow time to recover.....(let the muscle catch back up to where it was preworkout)
3....allow time to grow....(the most import but also most neglected)

happy lifting

Yeh. 2 month ago I had trouble doing flat dumbell bench presses with 20 pounders. BOOO!!!
Now I can do 75 pounds for 1 time max. And 55-60 for 10 times!

ANyways... What is your split? What do you do each workout?