I guess I should post this here

[BrickGirl]

P.S. If you are taking Winstrol, I have posted over and over that Winstrol is iron depleting, and to make sure you supplement your iron. Also, if you are having your periods and are bleeding a lot, that will also lower your iron, so both of those together make it really really low, so you should be supplementing with iron right now, because I know you read my posts so maybe you just arn't supplementing enough

 

[HappyScrappy]

I have a friend that went and was told by the doc his liver wasn't happy - he was also on milk thistle and the doc said not to take that, b/c it was actually more work for the liver to do that too...

don't know. I have the tyler's liver detox - but it still isn't clear to me if that really is helping, or just getting rid of the things that set off the test...

 

[wilson6]

"Your liver enzymes are supposed to be high while taking AS, it means your liver is doing its job "

Not exactly....... What it means, IF the enzymes are related to the liver is that hepatocytes are being damaged/destroyed, their cell membranes disrupted and the contents (including those enzymes) are spilling into circulation.

I've seen labs from a few women competitors using 300 - 500 mg/wk of a mix of AAS including winny-V, deca, test and OX for 12 weeks, some on test and/or deca year round with no elevations of liver enzymes. Then their are guys that don't use juice and have ALT and AST in the low 100's (almost 3x normal) due to SKELETAL MUSCLE, NOT LIVER damage.

The lab values are important here. High AST and ALT can also indicate a latent hepatitis infection or other occult liver pathology.

Post the values.

W6

 

[tripleV]

Ok guys, I dont have the results in front of me, but i looked at the paper when the doc was telling me. He said both ast and alt???? were high. He pointed to 2 numbers..57 and 55. Does this help? I will call him on MOnday to ask for the details.
THX for all the help

 

[tripleV]

oh in case there is any confusion....i told him i was on winstrol.,.i have been off for a few weeks now, closer to amonth actually ! The test was taken a week after my last shot, but i did tell him i was on AS.

 

[KBgrl]

T baby.......ask him to fax u the results...... or get a copy......just so u have it for urself......its always good to have those things .

 

[wilson6]

"He pointed to 2 numbers..57 and 55. Does this help? I will call him on MOnday to ask for the details."

If those are ALT and AST and that's what he was referring to, you have little to worry about. Those values are far, far from way high.

Have the blood work redone after a week off from heavy lifting and establish baseline numbers. Then have it done again (no juice) after a few weeks of heavy lifting when you are really sore. Second baseline numbers.

Then you and he know what your true baseline LFTs are. Take it from there. You will both be educated.

Regardless, post all the labs when you get them.

W6