to everyone who is giving ssalexss shit about this, fucking try it. dont just sit there spitting out bullshit when you have nothing to back it up with. i find alex to be one hardcore bastard to even attempt this, let alone complete it. if you read my earlier reply to this, youd see that it can add a lot of growth to your arms. there was a website all about this ... but goddammit, i forget it. if i find it, ill post it up. alex, keep up the hardcoreness.