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Everyone's favorite PCT?
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I prefer just nolva. Clomid turns me into a little b!tch, lol. The nolva from chemicalneed is top notch
infraredline
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Torem
Aromasin in pct (Adex on cycle)
Daa
Post cycle/unleashed
(Clomid only if using tren)
will get a lot of hate for this, but fav is clo and nol
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The problem is, even if they work, they stop working as soon as you stopped -- then you need PCT!!!
But your body is producing test on its own after that...? I'm confused
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Nope. Clomid and Nolva do nothing to raise the bodies ability to raise test. If that were the case, we'd all do a course of CLomid and walk around with higher test levels! No, it doesn;t work that way.
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I don't know anyone who thinks a pill will permanently raise your testosterone for life...
Clomid is extremely effective at raising testosterone in hypgonadal men. Clomid significantly raises test, LH, FSH. I am happy to post studies but I'm sure you've seen them all, which is why I'm surprised there is even this debate tbh.
It is important to raise those levels quickly while in PCT and your body is regaining it's natural ability to produce testosterone. The point is getting your test levels up quickly in a non-suppressive way so you can hold on to as much of your gains as possible while your body is getting back to baseline.
Based on every study I've ever seen and bloodwork, clomid increases test levels faster and better than any natural test booster. 25mg is a proven dose for clomid across countless studies of hypogonadal men. It is a good drug for PCT and anyone not using it or another SERM like torem in PCT after a mild-heavy cycle is doing themselves a disservice, in my opinion.
Natural test boosters and libido-boosting/feel-good herbs are great and all during PCT. It absolutely helps to keep libido and energy up while in PCT. And they do increase testosterone for some people (clomid doesn't work for everyone either). But for the money, I'm choosing clomid every time. Sure I could spend $155 on phytoserms to maybe raise my levels the claimed 347%, but I could get that same effect for 1/10 of the cost using clomid for 4-6 weeks.
Clomid and natural test boosters both stop working after you stop taking them...so i'm not sure what you mean by "then you start PCT". Are you saying clomid is suppressive?
My pct consists of a combination of clomid, forma or aromasin, and maybe a test/libido booster.
Look at this graph..more than doubled LH, FSH in only 4 weeks. You don't think that more LH is going to bring you back to baseline faster? that's the whole point of an HCG blast and using HCG on cycle.
http://eje-online.org/content/161/1/163/F1.medium.gif
http://eje-online.org/content/161/1/163.long for the full study. That is @ 50mg of clomid btw, but there are tons of studies on only 25mg which yield similar results.
Clomid is extremely effective at raising testosterone in hypgonadal men. Clomid significantly raises test, LH, FSH. I am happy to post studies but I'm sure you've seen them all, which is why I'm surprised there is even this debate tbh.
It is important to raise those levels quickly while in PCT and your body is regaining it's natural ability to produce testosterone. The point is getting your test levels up quickly in a non-suppressive way so you can hold on to as much of your gains as possible while your body is getting back to baseline.
Based on every study I've ever seen and bloodwork, clomid increases test levels faster and better than any natural test booster. 25mg is a proven dose for clomid across countless studies of hypogonadal men. It is a good drug for PCT and anyone not using it or another SERM like torem in PCT after a mild-heavy cycle is doing themselves a disservice, in my opinion.
Natural test boosters and libido-boosting/feel-good herbs are great and all during PCT. It absolutely helps to keep libido and energy up while in PCT. And they do increase testosterone for some people (clomid doesn't work for everyone either). But for the money, I'm choosing clomid every time. Sure I could spend $155 on phytoserms to maybe raise my levels the claimed 347%, but I could get that same effect for 1/10 of the cost using clomid for 4-6 weeks.
Clomid and natural test boosters both stop working after you stop taking them...so i'm not sure what you mean by "then you start PCT". Are you saying clomid is suppressive?
My pct consists of a combination of clomid, forma or aromasin, and maybe a test/libido booster.
Look at this graph..more than doubled LH, FSH in only 4 weeks. You don't think that more LH is going to bring you back to baseline faster? that's the whole point of an HCG blast and using HCG on cycle.
http://eje-online.org/content/161/1/163/F1.medium.gif
http://eje-online.org/content/161/1/163.long for the full study. That is @ 50mg of clomid btw, but there are tons of studies on only 25mg which yield similar results.
Testosterone raises test too. The idea is to get your body doing it, not to have a drug do it.
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