Dramatic fat lost substance, has to be ?

[junk]

As far as dramatic weight loss supplements, T3 and DNP are the only miracle drugs i can think of, and i dont know if T3 even counts as a dramatic weight loss supplement.

However tons of studies on mice are being done. Studies on drugs that block enzymes that build fat (C75), studies on thyroid meds that do not negatively affect teh heart, studies on drugs that prevent fat cells from building a capillary bed, causing the cells to die, and tons of other drugs.

I dont know if they work in humans, how you can get them, or if they are safe though.

DNP didn't do shit for me. And I did follow the plan very strictly and went up to 600mg a day. calories were dialled as well as training.. The results I've experienced were just about the same results I experience when doing strict diets without DNP and incorporating cardio. All in all
Strict Diet + proper training + DNP did for me the SAME as
Strict Diet + proper training + 30min AM cardio 4 times a week.

That's it.. Not worth it.. And I do have a lot of experience with cutting trust me. I guess it's effect is like almost everything, depandant on the person.

 

[LeeJunFan]

this is a quote from a bb'ing site:

Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine short half life prevents it from being all that effective.

As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time.

 

[Lao Tzu]

I dont know how much T3 can increase the metabolic rate. I have tried to dig up the info online but it varies. some sites say hyperthyroidism causes a 30% increase, some say a 100% increase in metabolic rate. But they don't mention what constitutes hyperthyroidism, how many mcg's of T3 the body is producing, which sucks. We need affordable personal metabolic testers.

combining T3 and DNP is still the most effective diet combo i can think of. one drug makes the ability to create energy less effective while the other increases the metabolic rate. I remember about 3 years ago when EF had a different board structure some guy doing large doses of both and losing about 16lbs in a week. im sure a good deal of that was water but still, shit. I'd never do it though, too dangerous.

 

[bigrand]

C75 not commercially available, you need to make it as you are looking for a specific compound in the AMGB family. It can be done if you are a good chemist and have access to a lot of O-chem equipment. I talked a little with Spidey about it and a synthetic o-chemist should be adept.

 

[str8cubano]

many say tren is the one that dramatically raises strentgh and fat loss. Results incredibly quicker if diet