Diet help for 1st cycle: Cal requirements

[needtogetaas]

This is from Needto in regards to a test/deca cycle:

never ever ever ever run Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - for PCT - post cycle therapy - after Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - . Shit even Clomid would be better but I think you should do this...


soon as cycle is over do 10 days HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 1000iu's eod..

then start PCT - post cycle therapy - 25mg Clomid ed and 5 pumps Sustain Alpha ed for 4 weeks as well..

Please keep Femera - letrozole - and dostinex on hand for this cycle.

Also as said B4, the doses are way off for this cycle. 150 mg's of test a week won't do a thing and you need to run the test about 2 weeks longer than the deca.

10 weeks test 400mg's/wk
8 weeks deca 200 mg's/wk


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spot on. I like test for 12 and deca for 10 but its still a lot better then what this guy is thinking of doing.

 

[spamisok1]

your BMI could be misleading if you really are 11% bf. (otherwise, why not cut for 4 more weeks). but the BMR just don't look right. i've calculated around 2000. how did you calculate that?

I got this from the sticky in the diet section:

***Use the following equation to calculate your Basal Metabolic Rate***

Men: BMR = 66 + (13.7 X wt in kg) + (5 X ht in cm) - (6.8 X age in yrs)

I F'ed up and used my height in inches instead of cm. So BMR is about 2000 and TDEE about 3000.

I thought 500 cal per day was for bulking without gear, my real question is whether I need more than that (750 or so) during cycle.

Thanks

 

[spamisok1]

important question: what are the concentrations per bottle of your oils? ( i don't like only 150mg prop/week, but i'll wait for this answer first )

Deca = 200mg/2cc
Test = 50mg/?
Winny = 50mg/1cc

But doesn't matter, I like the cycle EZ_E laid out. Think I'm gonna run that instead.

 

[EZ_E]

Deca = 200mg/2cc
Test = 50mg/?
Winny = 50mg/1cc

But doesn't matter, I like the cycle EZ_E laid out. Think I'm gonna run that instead.

You can thank Zeus for that, aka "The Man" Needtogetaas

 

[spamisok1]

You can thank Zeus for that, aka "The Man" Needtogetaas

Thanks to both of you. I thought I had a good diet/exercise plan going til I started researching these threads and you meatsticks have so much god damn info on here that I'm putting off my cycle for a few months to do some more research and tweak the rest of my routine.

However, no one really answered my origional question. I thought a 500 cal per day surplus was the rule of thumb for bulking without AAS, so would you need more on cycle due to the fact that you would be putting on muscle much faster?