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molnii

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hey
my stats are 5"9 and 178.I'm 21 years old.
My BF should be around 9-10%...I would like to go down to 7-8%
I wanna really bring out my lower ABS.bawling:
I eat 5-6 times a day...drink over a gallon of water.
I lift 4 times a week and do cardio in the morning3 times a week for 30 minutes....
meal1=whey shake with Udo's

meal2=cottage cheese with light yogurt+some BCAA

meal3=chicken with beans or some pasta

meal4=whey with Udo's

meal5=2 chicken breast with salsa on it...

sometimes meal6 whey protein with water

so does anybody can help how to finish my goal??
Hansel I would appreciate your help....:D
 
i would add casein protein. save the whey for post workout only - it burns tooo quick otherwise...

i would drop the past and add a sweet potato..
 
this diet should "dry you out". youll loose alot of water weight and loose that full look, which will make you look leaner. but im shure you will loose fat too.

i would up the carbs some and increase the cardio. and substitute your first meal with a carb meal instead of fat because insulin sensitivity is the highest in the morning
 
im sorry but i have to disagree...i think your kal. are way too low; especially for trying to only drop 1 - 2% in your bf. i would definately up the protein intake and where are your vegatables. the thing people screw up on the most is undereating while dieting. haven't you noticed how most people just end up looking like a small version of their old self? i would eat no less than 2500 kal based on your bodyweight (probaly go 3000) but learn to cycle your carbs and fats, and utilize the berardi method of eating

eat more, and use constructive cardio to lean up (along with some AR!) such as pulling and running with sled, farmers walks, etc...

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/masseating_1.htm
 
so how much carbs should I eat??
right now I eat 200-220 g of protein and 130-160 g of carbs and also quality fat 40-60g.....
 
nah bro, i eat carbs... i just eat em sensibly and time em around training

i did an atkins esque diet for 4 months and lost weight but didnt look more ripped than I am now

right now im on a 40/30/30
best ratio for me
 
i totally agree with pillsbury,but you also have to find the ratio oc carbs for you.there is no set number for everyone.your protein should stay high..1.5 per pound of lean mass...start the day with carbs with your protein,also i agree with trying to get your protein from food rather then shakes.leave that for after your workout.then have another carb meal. you can have chicken,tuna,egg whites,whiting(very lowfat fish,21gms protein per 4 oz),turkey breast...don't eat the cottage cheese evry singl day,...just my .02
 
hansel....also I usually lift around 5 or 6 PM after that I come home around 6 or 7PM and drink whey with dextrose....so after that can I still have a carb meal-chicken and rice later around 9 or just protein no carb??
 
molnii said:

meal1=whey shake with Udo's

meal2=cottage cheese with light yogurt+some BCAA

meal3=chicken with beans or some pasta

meal4=whey with Udo's

meal5=2 chicken breast with salsa on it...

sometimes meal6 whey protein with water

You have already gotten a lot of good advice here, but you might want to try something like this...

1 Oats and Whey

2 cottage cheese with light yogurt+some BCAA

3 2 Chicken Salad w/ Nuts

4 Shake w/ udo's

5 2 Chicken and Salsa

PW shake whenever. you dont necessarily have to eat a big protein carb meal after your PW shake your not really trying to grow right now.

I would make sure thats an artificially sweetend yogurt, drink green tea, and supplement a tbs of psyllium. Do your cardio and try to keep carbs around 100g per day bumping it up a couple hundred every few days.

I also suggest a regimen sex, red meat, and heavy squats.
 
thanx bro!
how much cardio would recommend??
3-4 times in the morning for empty stomach for 30 min is enough??
 
my stats are 5"9 and 178.I'm 21 years old.
My BF should be around 9-10%...I would like to go down to 7-8%
I wanna really bring out my lower ABS.bawling:
I eat 5-6 times a day...drink over a gallon of water.
I lift 4 times a week and do cardio in the morning3 times a week for 30 minutes....
start doing cardio 5x a week AM-30min

****meal plan changes in bold

meal1=whey shake with Udo's
1/2 cup of oatmeal, 3 whole eggs 2 egg whites, 2 cups steammed veggies, 100mg ALA

meal2=cottage cheese with light yogurt+some BCAA
1 cup Yams w/ 1 6oz. skinless chicken breast, 2 cups veggies , 100mg ALA

meal3=chicken with beans or some pasta
8oz.salmon w/ 3 cups veggies

meal4=whey with Udo's
2 scoops of whey protein (40gprotein) + 1 tbsp. Udo's

meal5=2 chicken breast with salsa on it...
2 chicken breasts w/ 10grams psyllium husk fiber + 1tbsp. olive oil on a salad

Mr.X
 
that john berardi page was very informative

quick question about the R-ala, ive seen a lot of technical discussion on it, but can some put in simple terms, what it will do for me if im trying to gain lean mass??
 
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Great Article on ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid)!!!!! (post #1)

by Bodybuilder Derek Charlebois

Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) has been getting a lot of attention lately. Making more and more people try it. From what I read and what other people have told me, ALA sounds like a great supplement. So I decided to look into it for myself. It is important to research for yourself before jumping onto the latest trend. This allows you to fully, or at least try, to understand what you are taking. With that said, let's look in ALA.

Other Names of ALA

Lipoic acid
Thioctic acid
1,2-dithiolane-3-pentanoic acid
1,2-dithiolane-3-valeric acid
6,8-thioctic acid

The History of ALA

ALA was isolated in 1950 by Dr. Lester Reed of the Department of Chemistry at the University of Texas. From 1950 until the late 1980's, ALA was only looked at for its effect on glucose. But in the late 1980's, researchers discovered its powerful antioxidant properties. ALA as a Antioxidant. ALA is also known as "The Universal Antioxidant". It is known as this, because it is both water and fat soluble and can pass the brain blood barrier. This means it can be used throughout the body: muscles, fat, organs, brain. It also works on the inside and outside of cells, allowing it to destroy free radicals before the get into cells and once they are already in (1).

Antioxidants

(Taken from my fruit and vegetables article.)

Antioxidants are molecules that neutralize free radicals. Free radicals are molecules that are missing an electron. This gives them a strong electro-negativity or want to fill their electron shell. To complete their shell and become positive, free radicals will take an electron from another molecule or give an electron to another molecule. The molecule that gained or loss an electron is now a free radical. This is called oxidation. The new free radical now looks to make itself positive. It finds another molecule and completes oxidation. This sets off a chain reaction which can harm many molecules. Antioxidants stop this chain reaction from taking place. Some antioxidants give the free radicals an electron. Others destroy the free radical. Free radicals can cause a variety of negative effects, so it is important to get rid of them. Fruits and vegetables are known for their antioxidants.

Not only is ALA a powerful antioxidant itself, but can also enhance the effectiveness of other antioxidants such as vitamin C and E, glutathoine, and coenzyme Q10. Antioxidants are either in reduced or oxidized form. An antioxidant is in its reduced form when it has an extra electron to give. Once an antioxidant has come into contact with a free radical, they return to their oxidized form. ALA gives up its extra electron to oxidized glutathoine or vitamin C, returning them to their reduced form where they can fight off free radicals. Vitamin C in turn can regenerate vitamin E to its reduced form. The process is known as the redox cycle. Adding ALA as a supplement greatly enhances your body's overall ability to fight off free radicals. That in itself makes it an excellent supplement!

Disease Fighting

Aids

ALA how been shown to stop the HIV virus from replicating in test tubes. Testing is still be done to see how the supplement effects HIV positive patients. It is known though, that people who are HIV positive have a weaken immune system. ALA's powerful antioxidant properties make it a must for HIV patients. Studies show that glutathoine levels were greatly increased in HIV patients who supplemented with ALA.

Vision

ALA has been shown to prevent cataracts in rats, improve visual functions of people with Glucoma, and prevent the eyes from degeneration.

Nervous System Diseases

ALA is a protector of the nervous system. It might also be involved in nerve regeneration. Because of this, studies are being done to see how ALA affects patients with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease.

ALA and the LIVER!

Two "hopeless" patients lay in hospital beds. Both are diagnosed with incurable liver disease. One doctor thought to try a "new" product that had not really been tested. As a result, the patients made full recoveries. What was this magical drug? ALA! (2). ALA has been used to cure liver damage caused by poisonous mushrooms, alcohol, metal detoxification, and other poisonings. All this is possible because ALA can remove toxic minerals from the body (3).

Dietary Sources of ALA

ALA is found in:

Red meats (The richest of all food sources in ALA)
Spinach (Popeye knew what he was doing)
Potatoes (Particularly the skin)
Well, I hope this wet your appetite to the world of Alpha Lipoic Acid. In part two of this series, you will explore why ALA has become popular with bodybuilders.


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(post #2)

Before we get into ALA, let's take a look at what happens to food when it enters the body.

A normal meal:


1. Food is consumed.
2. This food is converted into glucose for energy.
3. Insulin is released by the pancreas to shuttle the glucose into muscle and fat cells (assuming liver glycogen levels are full). Once the muscle cells are full, all excess glucose is shuttled to fat cells.

Now let's look at a meal taken with ALA:

1. Food is consumed.
2. This food is converted into glucose for energy.
3. Insulin is released by the pancreas to shuttle the glucose into muscle and fat cells. Once the muscle cells are full, all excess glucose is shuttled to fat cells.


Now this is where ALA comes into play. In order for glucose to be carried into cells, it must be attached to insulin. ALA is shown to have an insulin mimicking effect. So then more glucose would be shuttled to fat cells because the muscle cells are full, right? Wrong! Studies show that ALA increases Glut-4 transporters on the outside of muscle cells. This means more glucose can be shuttled into muscle cells and away from fat cells. Studies show that the amount of glucose shuttled to your muscles can increase from 50-60%. For those who are not that good in math: This means if you ate 100 carbs and originally without ALA, 40 grams of glucose went to your muscles cells and the rest, 60 grams, went to fat cells. Now, by supplementing with ALA, you have the power to send 60 grams of glucose and only 40 to fat cells. That is a big difference! How you ask.

Insulin Effect

ALA has an insulin like effect. It does not take the place of insulin, only mimics it. (To learn about insulin and its effects you can read my Insulin article). ALA has been shown to increase glucose uptake by mimicking insulin and shuttling it to Glut-4 receptors as mentioned above. Because ALA has increased the number of Glut-4 receptors on the outside of the muscle, more glucose can be absorbed.

Effects of Increased Glucose Uptake

This increase of glucose does many positive things. These include:


1. Increased pump
2. Less fat accumulation
3. Increases Amino Acid transport
4. Increases creatine
5. Increased insulin sensitivity
6. Increased Pump

The increased pump is due to the increase in glucose uptake. Not only does this feel great, but it also contributes to muscle growth. By increasing the muscle cells volume, but nutrients are able to be shuttled to the muscle. Hence increased muscle growth.

Less Fat Accumulation

Again, due to the increase in glucose uptake by muscles cells, less glucose is stored as fat. ALA also lowers one's blood sugar levels, creating a more suitable atmosphere for fat burning.

Increased Amino Acid and Creatine Uptake

This comes back to the increased pump. Because the muscle cells are in an enlarged state, more amino acids and creatine can reach them. Insulin increases amino acid and creatine uptake. Remember, ALA mimics insulin, which means it also increases amino acid and creatine uptake. There are a ton of creatine products on the market that are loaded with sugar. This is because sugar causes an insulin spike, which carries the creatine to muscle cells. The problem with this is an excess amount of sugar with cause you to gain fat. By supplementing with ALA you can carry more creatine to muscle cells without swallowing 75+ grams of sugar. I still recommend taking a simple sugary carb after your workout, but ALA can increase creatine uptake while you take a lower amount of sugar. This is very important for those who are cutting. They can get the same effects post workout without having to worry about storing excess carbs as fat.

Increased Insulin Sensitivity

This is great news for bodybuilders! When I go on a bulking cycle. I find that about after two months, my gains slow drastically. One way to combat this is to go on a brief cutting cycle to and your insulin sensitivity rebuild. Supplementing with ALA could allow you to add more mass as a result of your insulin sensitivity not reducing.

Results During Cutting vs. Bulking

Results will differ depends on your diet. If you are bulking, you can expect to less fat and more muscle gain because of ALA nutrient partitioning effect.

Results from cutting are increased fat loss and a muscle sparing effect. Because your muscles are storing more glucose, your muscles will not become as depleted as they usually do when cutting. This helps you look full and not flat.

Dosage (per day)

200-600 mg will increase insulin sensitivity and lower blood glucose levels. Lower than 200 mg won't give you noticeable effects, except for ALA antioxidant properties. 600 mg-1200 mg will give you an increase in #1 1200-2000 will give you an increase in #1 and more noticeable fat loss. 3000 mg is "said" (Not a fact, just what has worked best for ALA users) to be the ideal dose to assist in massive fat loss, increase in insulin sensitivity, and increasing glucose.

I got these doses from experienced ALA users and other information I've read. They are a general ranges. It is best to divide you dosages up throughout the day. For example, if you are taking 1000 mg a day. You could take:


300 mg with breakfast
200 mg with a carb meal
300 mg post workout
200 mg with last meal


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