Deadlifts at beginning or end of back workout

[bigbadmadmanD]

Me and a friend cant agree on whether it is best for us to deadlift at the beginning or end of the back workout. He says its the heaviest weight we use so it should be first but I believes its best to do it towards the end so the back is pre-fatigued and will give out before the other muscles. What do you guys prefer?

 

[Valdez]

if you want a big deadlift specifically you must do it first. if you want a big back it doesn't matter IMHO deadlifts could be a good finisher if your already tired. (Dorian Yates did deadlifts at the end most of the time)

 

[bigbadmadmanD]

yeah we were using it to thicken the back, when we do do it on leg day we do it early though.

 

[Garza]

I am more of a powerlifter than a bodybuilder. I do my deadlifts first with no belt. When I am done I am so worn out that I must use a belt for my pulldowns and rows. If you want to focus on your lats I would say do the deadlifts last.

 

[cAbo]

grip??

doesnt doing back excercises before deadlifts weaken ur grip strenght, would u be able to work correctly your spine muscles with an weak girp??

 

[goahead]

Yup, grip will be weaker if u do as last back exercise, therefore do like Yates did:
do some sets of hyperextensions first to pre-exhaust the spine muscles and use straps.

I guess this Yates freak decided to put deads as last exercise as his muscles generated too much intensity that his joints couldn't handle anymore if he was to do balls to the wall deads as first exercise?

For beginners/intermediate guys i think it is better to do deads as first exercise until you can pull some grueling weight and than shuffle it to after lats/traps

Personally if have split my lats and spinal work in TWO
days:

day 1:
- lats and rdelt

day 2:
- lowerback (hyperextensions/ deadlifts)
- hamstrings (stiff legged deadlifts/leg pulley)
- calves
- traps

 

[Nathan]

Why not do it first one week and then push it back a bit the next? This way you keep your body guessing and keep growth more symmetric in your back as well (provided your other exercises are movements like wide-grip chins, pulldowns, etc.)

 

[Glootz]

End of my back workout
If I did deads before rows, and lat pulldowns, I would be too fatiqued to get a good workout

 

[Uncle McK]

It seems that Deadlifts would be better in the start of the workout.

When should you do bent over rows? I had a partner that went from doing Deadlifts to Bent Rows in succession....Gorilla!

What is best for the average fellow?

 

[EightMoreWeeks]

End of my back workout
If I did deads before rows, and lat pulldowns, I would be too fatiqued to get a good workout

Absolutely agree with glootz. I can dig deep for deadlifts but after deadlifts I'm looking for the door. Do them last or on a different day.