Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below This thread has not swayed me on thoughts of cardio and diet one bit. What it has reaffirmed is that you need to know, experiment and figure out what works best for you and your own genetics. Our genetics are as diverse as our opinions here and their will never be a concencus, ever.
CARDIO is a WASTE of TIME and ENERGY!!!
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Sure machine, I'll shoot that right over to you. Anything else? A few recipes maybe? Maybe your car could use a waxing. Need cash? Let me know. And to the other hundred or so people who e-mail me daily, the same offer applys.
You see, the fact that I spent a year compiling over 20 years worth of experience into a book doesn't really matter and I shouldn't expect compensation for it. My sole purpose is to serve you and hopefully gain your acceptance.
Not for nothing, but I'm not the only one here with something to sell.
You see, the fact that I spent a year compiling over 20 years worth of experience into a book doesn't really matter and I shouldn't expect compensation for it. My sole purpose is to serve you and hopefully gain your acceptance.
Not for nothing, but I'm not the only one here with something to sell.
Huck, I think we're closer than we realize.
I'd say the only difference is in approach. I believe that sustained HR can occur in any ways, includig light weight/short rest type training.
I'm also a believer in uping calorie expenditure thorughout the day with more activity. But running? jogging? Step classes? Riding a staionary bike? The threadmill? Fuck that.
I'd say the only difference is in approach. I believe that sustained HR can occur in any ways, includig light weight/short rest type training.
I'm also a believer in uping calorie expenditure thorughout the day with more activity. But running? jogging? Step classes? Riding a staionary bike? The threadmill? Fuck that.
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Whoa!
These concepts aren't understood in the land of 'elite'?
'Some key elements and a whole host of biochemical and metabolic events which take place when aerobic exercise is engaged including, but not limited to, raising NA/NE levels, passive glucose uptake, increased insulin sensitivity, raises T3, etc. '
These concepts aren't understood in the land of 'elite'?
'Some key elements and a whole host of biochemical and metabolic events which take place when aerobic exercise is engaged including, but not limited to, raising NA/NE levels, passive glucose uptake, increased insulin sensitivity, raises T3, etc. '
vinylgroover
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vinylgroover said:
I'll quote myself since much else of what i've read here is pseuo-scientific bullshit.
Can anyone who please read this thread disregard anthing that Nelson Montana has said, primarily because it's downright irresponsible, particularly when it comes to the effect of cardio type training on imroving cardiovascular health.
Cardiovascular training can be taking a stroll in the park for 20 minutes.
I have learned one thing in my lfe people, and that is when people like Montana take common sense out of any debate and instead replace it with he said she said bullshit scientific studies, you should switch straight off.
By all means read people, but always bring it back to common sense.
vinylgroover: Why are you being such an asshole? Just because I hold a different opinion than you doesn't mean that I'm irresponsible and just because other members disagree doesn't make them "fucking stupid" -- as you say.
I'd venture to guess I have at least as much experience, at least as presdigeous credentials and I know at least as much about training as you do, so where do you come off wih the imperious attitude?
And besides, you're wrong.
Dialtone. One thing: You're defending areobics as an effective form of fat burning, yet you say you got ripped for a compitition without them. Which is it bro?
I'd venture to guess I have at least as much experience, at least as presdigeous credentials and I know at least as much about training as you do, so where do you come off wih the imperious attitude?
And besides, you're wrong.
Dialtone. One thing: You're defending areobics as an effective form of fat burning, yet you say you got ripped for a compitition without them. Which is it bro?
vinylgroover
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I've got no probem with debate and conjecture, but when i hear people making claims that weight training can elicit the same if not better cardiovascular benefits than anearobic exercise (which forces the body to recruit more oxygen), it's time to switch off.
NM maintains that cardio work will not extend your life. It may not, there are a host of other factors which will have a hand in that, but it wil certainly improve the quality of it.
Cardio=improved fitness, whether it be in the form of cycling, swimming, jogging, walking, stationary bike........... it doesn't get any simpler than that so what the fuck are we debating.
NM maintains that cardio work will not extend your life. It may not, there are a host of other factors which will have a hand in that, but it wil certainly improve the quality of it.
Cardio=improved fitness, whether it be in the form of cycling, swimming, jogging, walking, stationary bike........... it doesn't get any simpler than that so what the fuck are we debating.
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For all of you who think CARDIO IS A WASTE OF TIME AND ENERGY:
Weightlifting exercises your muscles;Cardio exercises your HEART!
If your heart isn't healthy and functioning properly, combined with the effects of juice, you are setting yourself up for some serious heart, kidney and liver problems by your 50's, and maybe even your 40's depending on how long and how great your use of juice and no cardio routine went on for. Smoking and drinking only aggravates these poor conditions. So for all you newbies who drink like fish, smoke like a chimney and don't do cardio as well as juice your brains out ( since your a newbie, and probably do it improperly), you WILL ENCOUNTER HEALTH PROBLEMS. The only remaining question will be to what degree your health problems will be. So for all of you bros who are only concerned about less important health problems such as hair loss and testicular shrinkage, you better realize that there are MUCH MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES. Stop paying so much concern to going bald, and more concern towards your heart and liver.
Weightlifting exercises your muscles;Cardio exercises your HEART!
If your heart isn't healthy and functioning properly, combined with the effects of juice, you are setting yourself up for some serious heart, kidney and liver problems by your 50's, and maybe even your 40's depending on how long and how great your use of juice and no cardio routine went on for. Smoking and drinking only aggravates these poor conditions. So for all you newbies who drink like fish, smoke like a chimney and don't do cardio as well as juice your brains out ( since your a newbie, and probably do it improperly), you WILL ENCOUNTER HEALTH PROBLEMS. The only remaining question will be to what degree your health problems will be. So for all of you bros who are only concerned about less important health problems such as hair loss and testicular shrinkage, you better realize that there are MUCH MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES. Stop paying so much concern to going bald, and more concern towards your heart and liver.
