All insulin users....

[Outtlaw]

So you consider 10iu's a good ceiling to goto if you dont want to inhibit one's natural insulin production?
Bionic

I'd say 10-15iu is a good ceiling for most. But you could push it if you want to. It's probably an individual thing. Test it out and see what works for you. For me I can do 18iu at a time with no problem. You might be able to do 20-25iu.

 

[idcbp]

Outlaws numbers are pretty much dead on. Although, I used to go up in the 18-20iu range, but then I had a bunch of bros warning me down, which I tried. The thing is that I never found there to be much risk provided that you double check you measurements and always have you carbs accounted for. That said, 18+ was never much of an issue, but I've found that I get almost the same results from 8-10ius. I hit them during my last sets or immediately post-workout. The key thing I've found is locating the ideal carb count to prevent hyp while not adding bodyfat. For me, AND I STRESS this is for me, its alot lower than what I've seen. I'm 220 and I consume about 50g sugar via cranberry juice and then 60-70g whey prot. I'll get my slow carbs and food prot. in the first real meal about 45 minutes post workout. This has really lead to great results for me. I think 8-15ius is gonna be the range for most, but the key is finding the ideal carb/prot.. When you do slin is as effective as any form of gear save high dosage andros. Very anabolic and really not dangerous if used with focus and respect.

 

[yomama]

Outlaws numbers are pretty much dead on. Although, I used to go up in the 18-20iu range, but then I had a bunch of bros warning me down, which I tried. The thing is that I never found there to be much risk provided that you double check you measurements and always have you carbs accounted for. That said, 18+ was never much of an issue, but I've found that I get almost the same results from 8-10ius. I hit them during my last sets or immediately post-workout. The key thing I've found is locating the ideal carb count to prevent hyp while not adding bodyfat. For me, AND I STRESS this is for me, its alot lower than what I've seen. I'm 220 and I consume about 50g sugar via cranberry juice and then 60-70g whey prot. I'll get my slow carbs and food prot. in the first real meal about 45 minutes post workout. This has really lead to great results for me. I think 8-15ius is gonna be the range for most, but the key is finding the ideal carb/prot.. When you do slin is as effective as any form of gear save high dosage andros. Very anabolic and really not dangerous if used with focus and respect.

Have you ever done more than that?

 

[silverbackn]

I'm a little hypoglycemic, I'm afraid to use insulin I might end up in a pine box. It sucks.

 

[idcbp]

I'm a little hypoglycemic, I'm afraid to use insulin I might end up in a pine box. It sucks.

I never want to down play a concern like that bro, cuz I feel ya, but there are ways to go about it in a mega-safe manner. Afterall, it is a numbers game plain and simple. You could start with something low like 4-6ius postworkout and hit 100g of carbs. You probably won't notice a response. With each subsequent workout, up the dose 1iu til you get to 8-10 which is a good muscle building postworkout shot. Now if you start to get any hypo signs, and at 100g fast carbs I doubt it, you can stop and move back down. I'll bet you'll get to 10 and still not notice any negative response. Then I'd advice lowering the carb intake 10g per workout. When you get a response you know you're going to low and up it 10g. (you could throw down an extra 30 at the time to feel safe). This will allow you to safely locate your ideal dose and carbs in a safe manner. If done in these gradual steps starting with a ridiculously safe cushion you don't risk any problems, as even when you approach limits and get slight symptoms they will be mild and you'll b e prepared to quickly counter them. As a competitor, you are used to regiments and focus and thats all slin takes to be safe and effective.

 

[majutsu]

Well thought out post idcb. k for you.
Very good thread, too.

 

[silverbackn]

I never want to down play a concern like that bro, cuz I feel ya, but there are ways to go about it in a mega-safe manner. Afterall, it is a numbers game plain and simple. You could start with something low like 4-6ius postworkout and hit 100g of carbs. You probably won't notice a response. With each subsequent workout, up the dose 1iu til you get to 8-10 which is a good muscle building postworkout shot. Now if you start to get any hypo signs, and at 100g fast carbs I doubt it, you can stop and move back down. I'll bet you'll get to 10 and still not notice any negative response. Then I'd advice lowering the carb intake 10g per workout. When you get a response you know you're going to low and up it 10g. (you could throw down an extra 30 at the time to feel safe). This will allow you to safely locate your ideal dose and carbs in a safe manner. If done in these gradual steps starting with a ridiculously safe cushion you don't risk any problems, as even when you approach limits and get slight symptoms they will be mild and you'll b e prepared to quickly counter them. As a competitor, you are used to regiments and focus and thats all slin takes to be safe and effective.

I would like to give this a try. Great post by the way!!!!!!! I will let you know how it works out for me. I appreciate the effort and thought you put into that post. You're the man!!!!!!!!

 

[smaller]

I think going by WOM for slin use is extremely dangerous as it's misuse is not nearly as forgiving as AAS misuse can sometimes be.

I would suggest doing some serious research - look at research yourself then ask questions - before using it.

An slin forum would be good idea.