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Bioactive Mimetic Loop

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Again I had chatgpt write the details out nicely so I didn't have to but.. the science is there and I have several people starting my protocol to confirm my results aren't a one off.


I’ve spent a lot of time running a personal experiment to solve a simple but brutal problem:

How do we get the anabolic nutrient partitioning of insulin—
Without injecting it, risking hypoglycemia, or bloating like a dead body?

I call the solution the Bioactive Mimetic Loop (BML).


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What It Is:
A closed-loop nutrient partitioning protocol that mimics the effects of insulin using only OTC, legal compounds. No GH. No Humalog. No black-market bullshit.


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Core System:

Berberine: AMPK activator, GLUT4 upregulation, mimics metformin

L-Carnitine Tartrate: Fat transport, endurance, ammonia buffering

Structured carb timing: Pre/post for fuel; complex carbs at night for refill

Electrolytes & Taurine: CNS & hydration support if needed



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Results I’ve Logged So Far (Documented):

5-600+ carbs/day with zero bloat, visible abs in the morning

Strength up across all lifts, especially pull movements

Fullness all day, no need for slin or post-injection feeding windows



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Who It’s For:

On-cycle athletes looking to max nutrient uptake without increasing drug load

Bridgers who want to keep pumps and recovery high without insulin

Naturals or enhanced lifters tired of the “dirty bulk → hard cut” loop

Anyone who wants full glycemic control with growth-phase intensity



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Why I'm Posting This Here:
Because no one is talking about nutrient partitioning as a standalone system. Everyone’s playing with insulin, peptides, or old-school bulks.

This is real performance chemistry—with zero hormonal suppression.

DM or tag me if you want the deeper breakdown. Respectful feedback is welcome.

– Rud
 

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Again I had chatgpt write the details out nicely so I didn't have to but.. the science is there and I have several people starting my protocol to confirm my results aren't a one off.


I’ve spent a lot of time running a personal experiment to solve a simple but brutal problem:

How do we get the anabolic nutrient partitioning of insulin—
Without injecting it, risking hypoglycemia, or bloating like a dead body?

I call the solution the Bioactive Mimetic Loop (BML).


---

What It Is:
A closed-loop nutrient partitioning protocol that mimics the effects of insulin using only OTC, legal compounds. No GH. No Humalog. No black-market bullshit.


---

Core System:

Berberine: AMPK activator, GLUT4 upregulation, mimics metformin

L-Carnitine Tartrate: Fat transport, endurance, ammonia buffering

Structured carb timing: Pre/post for fuel; complex carbs at night for refill

Electrolytes & Taurine: CNS & hydration support if needed



---

Results I’ve Logged So Far (Documented):

5-600+ carbs/day with zero bloat, visible abs in the morning

Strength up across all lifts, especially pull movements

Fullness all day, no need for slin or post-injection feeding windows



---

Who It’s For:

On-cycle athletes looking to max nutrient uptake without increasing drug load

Bridgers who want to keep pumps and recovery high without insulin

Naturals or enhanced lifters tired of the “dirty bulk → hard cut” loop

Anyone who wants full glycemic control with growth-phase intensity



---

Why I'm Posting This Here:
Because no one is talking about nutrient partitioning as a standalone system. Everyone’s playing with insulin, peptides, or old-school bulks.

This is real performance chemistry—with zero hormonal suppression.

DM or tag me if you want the deeper breakdown. Respectful feedback is welcome.

– Rud
lol, this whole “Bioactive Mimetic Loop” thing sounds like he just renamed taking berberine and eating carbs.
That ain’t insulin, that’s Whole Foods science. Yeah, berberine hits AMPK, but AMPK inhibits mTOR, that’s catabolic, not anabolic, my guy. L-carnitine’s cool for fatty acid transport, but it ain’t partitioning carbs like insulin does. Insulin drives nutrients into muscle via PI3K/Akt/mTOR, you don’t get that full cascade from this stack. Saying you can slam 600g carbs with abs means nothing if you’re just under-eating the rest of the week or natty lean. Respect for experimenting, but don’t act like this is a game changer, it’s just glorified glucose management.
 
You’re missing the point.

The Bioactive Mimetic Loop (BML) isn’t trying to be insulin. It’s designed to do insulin’s job—without the side effects.


1. "AMPK is catabolic."
Only if you're starving. In the BML, it’s used strategically to increase glucose uptake, improve insulin sensitivity, and keep your body in a fat-burning, carb-absorbing state.

2. "It doesn’t activate PI3K/Akt/mTOR."
You don’t need to force that pathway 24/7.
The loop primes the system so when insulin is released naturally post-meal or post-training, you get more bang for your buck.
Better absorption, less spillover, tighter look.

3. "600g carbs with abs doesn’t prove anything."
It does when it happens daily, with no fat gain, no bloat, and performance going up. That’s not under-eating or luck. That’s controlled partitioning.


What the BML actually is:

Berberine drives glucose into muscle

Carnitine improves fat burning and supports androgen activity

Salt + nutrient timing enhances absorption

Training + AAS support creates the perfect demand curve


No insulin spikes. No fat gain. Just lean fuel loading on command.


You called it "glorified glucose management"?
Damn right.

Except it works. Every. Single. Day.
And for $1 a day, not $1,000/month in pharma.
 
lol, this whole “Bioactive Mimetic Loop” thing sounds like he just renamed taking berberine and eating carbs.
That ain’t insulin, that’s Whole Foods science. Yeah, berberine hits AMPK, but AMPK inhibits mTOR, that’s catabolic, not anabolic, my guy. L-carnitine’s cool for fatty acid transport, but it ain’t partitioning carbs like insulin does. Insulin drives nutrients into muscle via PI3K/Akt/mTOR, you don’t get that full cascade from this stack. Saying you can slam 600g carbs with abs means nothing if you’re just under-eating the rest of the week or natty lean. Respect for experimenting, but don’t act like this is a game changer, it’s just glorified glucose management.

Not saying this replaces insulin. Just showing there’s a smarter way to manage carbs for performance and composition—without overcomplicating it or overreaching claims.

I gave a further explanation but didn't directly reply to your comment. Please take a look.
 
Not saying this replaces insulin. Just showing there’s a smarter way to manage carbs for performance and composition—without overcomplicating it or overreaching claims.

I gave a further explanation but didn't directly reply to your comment. Please take a look.
lets talk in human terms not chatgpt dude
i hate that shit
i gave you actual response not fake ass ai shit
 
You’re missing the point.

The Bioactive Mimetic Loop (BML) isn’t trying to be insulin. It’s designed to do insulin’s job—without the side effects.


1. "AMPK is catabolic."
Only if you're starving. In the BML, it’s used strategically to increase glucose uptake, improve insulin sensitivity, and keep your body in a fat-burning, carb-absorbing state.

2. "It doesn’t activate PI3K/Akt/mTOR."
You don’t need to force that pathway 24/7.
The loop primes the system so when insulin is released naturally post-meal or post-training, you get more bang for your buck.
Better absorption, less spillover, tighter look.

3. "600g carbs with abs doesn’t prove anything."
It does when it happens daily, with no fat gain, no bloat, and performance going up. That’s not under-eating or luck. That’s controlled partitioning.


What the BML actually is:

Berberine drives glucose into muscle

Carnitine improves fat burning and supports androgen activity

Salt + nutrient timing enhances absorption

Training + AAS support creates the perfect demand curve


No insulin spikes. No fat gain. Just lean fuel loading on command.


You called it "glorified glucose management"?
Damn right.

Except it works. Every. Single. Day.
And for $1 a day, not $1,000/month in pharma.
did you write this?
 
lets talk in human terms not chatgpt dude
i hate that shit
i gave you actual response not fake ass ai shit
What does it matter what I wrote? It's my and protocol.. demanding yes.. efficient.. hell yes.

If chat gpt corrects my grammar and saves me from typing explanations change the fact it works? No.

You don't have to understand the science behind how muscle is made to make it but I was curious and thus did research on how to improve carb uptake and efficiency of their use. I don't like gaining fat unless I have to. BML makes any fat gain minimal.

There are no new ideas in the protocol it simply is a way of manipulating a system. The body is that.. just a system. I understand systems i build and maintain them for a living so they make sense to me I'm tweaking my system with OTC supplements and I haven't found anybody else that does this.

Use it.. don't use it.. do the research or don't. Eat less carbs or don't.. BML can be a game changer but it takes a little more discipline than popping berberine and eating pizza.
 
What does it matter what I wrote? It's my and protocol.. demanding yes.. efficient.. hell yes.

If chat gpt corrects my grammar and saves me from typing explanations change the fact it works? No.

You don't have to understand the science behind how muscle is made to make it but I was curious and thus did research on how to improve carb uptake and efficiency of their use. I don't like gaining fat unless I have to. BML makes any fat gain minimal.

There are no new ideas in the protocol it simply is a way of manipulating a system. The body is that.. just a system. I understand systems i build and maintain them for a living so they make sense to me I'm tweaking my system with OTC supplements and I haven't found anybody else that does this.

Use it.. don't use it.. do the research or don't. Eat less carbs or don't.. BML can be a game changer but it takes a little more discipline than popping berberine and eating pizza.
I'm just saying dude
if im talking to you thats cool, if im talking to Ai thats dumb on my end
you can tell me your views in your words but honest seems you hella overcomplicating

@rüd can you start a log we asked you for ? training food we waiting
 
I'm just saying dude
if im talking to you thats cool, if im talking to Ai thats dumb on my end
you can tell me your views in your words but honest seems you hella overcomplicating

@rüd can you start a log we asked you for ? training food we waiting
Yes.. I'll get to the log this weekend. News on this front though.. after talking yesterday I pushed the envelope. I did 700+ clean carbs and for the sake of my experiment I downed 2 chocolate bars and a piece of carrot cake in the evening to push over 800g carbs. I have pictures from this morning. The loop holds up not just with healthy carbs but I woke up this morning still tight (yes pics will be in log). I'm not a bodybuilder im training for strongman competition but will include my write up. Pictures, time stamps, supps, nutrition, milestones, starts stops, notes on my micro dosing halo, nutrition etc.. it's coming but as you can tell I'm playing with alot of stuff all at once and working FT at a demanding job (Millwright in a production plant). My notes are scattered and include alot of wordy summaries from my ChatGPT.. it's the only way I can get alot of these things compiled quickly while doing everything but it means sorting out through ChatGPT bs.
 
Yes.. I'll get to the log this weekend. News on this front though.. after talking yesterday I pushed the envelope. I did 700+ clean carbs and for the sake of my experiment I downed 2 chocolate bars and a piece of carrot cake in the evening to push over 800g carbs. I have pictures from this morning. The loop holds up not just with healthy carbs but I woke up this morning still tight (yes pics will be in log). I'm not a bodybuilder im training for strongman competition but will include my write up. Pictures, time stamps, supps, nutrition, milestones, starts stops, notes on my micro dosing halo, nutrition etc.. it's coming but as you can tell I'm playing with alot of stuff all at once and working FT at a demanding job (Millwright in a production plant). My notes are scattered and include alot of wordy summaries from my ChatGPT.. it's the only way I can get alot of these things compiled quickly while doing everything but it means sorting out through ChatGPT bs.
lets start the log dude and see how you is
i think you can do big things and the EF family can help yoU @rüd
 
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