4AD 2nd Week

[growin']

Hey Pityocamptes, what size pin are you using?

 

[Pityocamptes]

Pin size...

I was using 25g x 1 but it took forever to get anything out of the vial - sometimes it would get plugged so I'd have to start over. 25g x1 ws great - never felt them go in. Now I have a large supply of 23g x 1 1/2 and they fill up nicely. They are a little bigger and so they are a little more uncomfortable but I'm starting to get used to them.

 

[pa1ad]

I figuered it would. I guess I could always blame that on PH's .

Only problem is that 4-AD and nor4-AD are also on the banned list. That loophole was closed about 3 years ago

 

[pa1ad]

Re: pa1ad - question's

Assuming everything goes well (so far it has been) for this cycle. Do you see any benefits to taking PH injectables? Is there a huge difference between taking PH's orally and injections? I have also noticed that recovery time seems very fast. Since taking PH by injection I have noticed that I can work a muscle to failure and yet feel no pain the next day or any day for that matter. Would this be from the 19-nordiol converting to nandrolone? Also by taking it by injection does this mean that the PH stays in the body longer and the body converts it at need or is the whole solution converted to its respective properties within a short period? Thanks for your help.

Injections increase the bioavailabilty several times. The activity is either from conversion or from both conversion and direct activity of the diol - no one really knows. The length of time the prohormone stays in the body depends upon the vehicle (solvent) that the prohormone is delivered in

 

[OVRTrainer]

pa1ad...

I think you're due for a little "arse kissing". I think I speak for everyone when I say that I really appreciate you hanging around the boards to clear things up and answer questions that others would be unable to answer. Your contributions are truly appreciated - Just trying to keep you around.

By the way, I'm lovin' the 1-AD. Several of my friends have invested in enough 1-AD for 6wk cycles, based on what they have seen me achieve. They thought I was a little crazy with the "spraying prohormones on my body" fiasco, but my results from the 1-AD are undeniable.

 

[growin']

Hell Yeah...Thanks pa1ad, both you and Par Deus are very appreciated by me.

Pityocamptes, why don't you get some 18g needles to draw, and then shoot with the 25g. If you need, you could heat the solution, and injections would be cake. Shit, you can even get Primo through a 25. This way, you are not limited to ass shots, and can hit up other parts (bi's tri's delts).

Are you using oil or water to suspend. I'm assuming you used water.

pa1ad, how long do you think the half life of 4-AD suspended in water versus oil varies?

Thanks

 

[D00fy]

is this a oral or a the topical ? spray?

 

[pa1ad]

Hell Yeah...Thanks pa1ad, both you and Par Deus are very appreciated by me.

Pityocamptes, why don't you get some 18g needles to draw, and then shoot with the 25g. If you need, you could heat the solution, and injections would be cake. Shit, you can even get Primo through a 25. This way, you are not limited to ass shots, and can hit up other parts (bi's tri's delts).

Are you using oil or water to suspend. I'm assuming you used water.

pa1ad, how long do you think the half life of 4-AD suspended in water versus oil varies?

Thanks

4-AD has very little solubility in straight oil so its not really a practical question. And when you add cosolvents and the like to solubilize the stuff in the oil then you change the equation altogether.

Activity time in the body of an aqueous suspension would depend upon the particle size of the steroid. I do know that for a run of the mill test suspension your test levels will be significantly elevated for around 3 days (with the largest levels seen on the first day)

I have no idea what is in this universal kit so i cannot even venture to guess what happens in the body after injecting something formulated with it

 

[growin']

The kits for 4-AD are suspension kits that come with vials, sterile water, a sterile filter, and magic solution(benzyl alcohol).

 

[pa1ad]

The kits for 4-AD are suspension kits that come with vials, sterile water, a sterile filter, and magic solution(benzyl alcohol).

I am guessing that the directions are to dissolve prohormone in the BA, filter, and then add water to the solution, which will then precipitate out the steroid and give a very crude pseudo aqueous suspension.

This sounds like a pretty disgusting concoction to inject