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Pityocamptes
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injectable ph
I bought the universal kit from "A" and used it for 19-nordiol mixed with 4 andro diol. I used a 75% / 25% ratio to see how it would work. I've had great results. I would recommend using the sterile filter. I did not use the sterile filter and ended up with a mild abcess. I used the filter on the final product (using a new sterile vial) and have not had any problems - could be that maybe the final product was not micronized thus causing muscle irritation (don't know)?. No fever no flu like symptoms. The only symptoms I've had is slight insomnia and occasional sore/ache in the nuts. Right now I'm doing around 75mg ED. Great results and strength. I've gone up in weight around 10 pounds and my waist is getting smaller. I've heard that 19-nordiol helps in lean mass and fat lose - don't know but it works for me. Makes me want to eat more as well - can't complain about that. No hairloss (in fact I'm seeing more hair grow), slight acne - besides that it's great. Plan to do another cycle after this one. (I'm sure someone will flame me - but hey it works for me).
I bought the universal kit from "A" and used it for 19-nordiol mixed with 4 andro diol. I used a 75% / 25% ratio to see how it would work. I've had great results. I would recommend using the sterile filter. I did not use the sterile filter and ended up with a mild abcess. I used the filter on the final product (using a new sterile vial) and have not had any problems - could be that maybe the final product was not micronized thus causing muscle irritation (don't know)?. No fever no flu like symptoms. The only symptoms I've had is slight insomnia and occasional sore/ache in the nuts. Right now I'm doing around 75mg ED. Great results and strength. I've gone up in weight around 10 pounds and my waist is getting smaller. I've heard that 19-nordiol helps in lean mass and fat lose - don't know but it works for me. Makes me want to eat more as well - can't complain about that. No hairloss (in fact I'm seeing more hair grow), slight acne - besides that it's great. Plan to do another cycle after this one. (I'm sure someone will flame me - but hey it works for me).
riskybizz007
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I wouldn't take winny b/c of the ED or EOD schedule, and still would have better results w/out the risk of abcesses. I don't know how you can do it ED.
Pityocamptes
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Its not that bad. I've only had the one experience with an abcess - I can only blame myself for that one (can't follow directions). Since the final product was sterile filtered I haven't had any problems. I figure since needles are cheap at my local walmart (and legal) and I had a bulk container of 19nordiol and 4ad why not get the best out of it. I tried oral (had to take huge amounts to notice anything - gets expensive) and topical (not bad but people started wondering what that weird smell was - DMSO - my wife didn't even want me sleeping in the same room!) and finally said what the heck, I'll do injectable. So far that has been the best alternative. The real deal would probably be better and I wouldn't look like a pin cushion but since juice has not been recognized as being kosher (at least from the stand point of the "man") and my employer (who I won't say - don't ask) requires random drug testing and L.D. testing - I'll keep the "man" happy. Lastly and ultimately it passes approval by the boss - my wife 
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Pityocamptes said:Its not that bad. I've only had the one experience with an abcess - I can only blame myself for that one (can't follow directions). Since the final product was sterile filtered I haven't had any problems. I figure since needles are cheap at my local walmart (and legal) and I had a bulk container of 19nordiol and 4ad why not get the best out of it. I tried oral (had to take huge amounts to notice anything - gets expensive) and topical (not bad but people started wondering what that weird smell was - DMSO - my wife didn't even want me sleeping in the same room!) and finally said what the heck, I'll do injectable. So far that has been the best alternative. The real deal would probably be better and I wouldn't look like a pin cushion but since juice has not been recognized as being kosher (at least from the stand point of the "man") and my employer (who I won't say - don't ask) requires random drug testing and L.D. testing - I'll keep the "man" happy. Lastly and ultimately it passes approval by the boss - my wife
Hate to break the news to you but your injections of 4-AD and nordiol will cause you to test positive for testosteorne and nandrolone
Pityocamptes
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I figuered it would. I guess I could always blame that on PH's .
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pa1ad - question's
Assuming everything goes well (so far it has been) for this cycle. Do you see any benefits to taking PH injectables? Is there a huge difference between taking PH's orally and injections? I have also noticed that recovery time seems very fast. Since taking PH by injection I have noticed that I can work a muscle to failure and yet feel no pain the next day or any day for that matter. Would this be from the 19-nordiol converting to nandrolone? Also by taking it by injection does this mean that the PH stays in the body longer and the body converts it at need or is the whole solution converted to its respective properties within a short period? Thanks for your help.
Assuming everything goes well (so far it has been) for this cycle. Do you see any benefits to taking PH injectables? Is there a huge difference between taking PH's orally and injections? I have also noticed that recovery time seems very fast. Since taking PH by injection I have noticed that I can work a muscle to failure and yet feel no pain the next day or any day for that matter. Would this be from the 19-nordiol converting to nandrolone? Also by taking it by injection does this mean that the PH stays in the body longer and the body converts it at need or is the whole solution converted to its respective properties within a short period? Thanks for your help.
Pityocamptes
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pa1ad - one more question...
Do you think those proportions are ok.? 75% 19nordiol and 25% 4ad. Since you know more of the PH stuff then most what kind of recommendations could you give for a future cycle. Should I change to something else like 1ad or go straight 19nordiol or use different proportions, etc. etc. for maximum growth and recovery? As mentioned above I'm taking 75mg ED. Is there anyway of determining what the equivalent would be orally? Also do you think I should increase or decrease this dosage for maximum results. Thanks again.
Do you think those proportions are ok.? 75% 19nordiol and 25% 4ad. Since you know more of the PH stuff then most what kind of recommendations could you give for a future cycle. Should I change to something else like 1ad or go straight 19nordiol or use different proportions, etc. etc. for maximum growth and recovery? As mentioned above I'm taking 75mg ED. Is there anyway of determining what the equivalent would be orally? Also do you think I should increase or decrease this dosage for maximum results. Thanks again.
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