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Young and low T
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I would listen close to what ziggie is writing.. he is a genius on this stuff.
he comes off tough but so what.. would you rather someone come on here and blow you off like a doc will do after examining you for 3 minutes and just say "yeah lets just put you on HRT for life" ??? or would you rather someone tell you how to correct the underlying problem without jerking you around or cutting corners... that is the thing with docs is that they LOVE to cut corners, after all they have their tennis match to get to.. they don't get paid to fix your problem, they get paid to put you on drugs and do tests on you. fixing your problem actually makes them LESS money as they want you to keep coming in
also the ONLY reason you know you have low T is cause you tested it. so kudos to you for doing that.. however do you know that 99% of your peers do not test it and have no clue? and i bet a huge percentage are also nutrition deficient. when i was 20 i probably was the same way but back then i had no clue about testosterone or that other shit. like ziggie said you have access to the internet today with a wealth of info so don't take things personal when someone is being direct with you. ziggie is VERY passionate about this shit and I don't blame him. problem is our world is so damn overpopulated that in 50 years the way things are going everyone at 20 will have low T and that will be considered normal
as far as your pot smoking being bad..ummm.. yeah? did u really think it was good for you? sounds like you are just a pothead when you say you smoke everyday. lets assume you stopped smoking pot, your T levels might jump 100 points.. if you took proper multi another 100 points.. if you stopped stressing over this stuff and enjoyed life at 20.. another 100 points.. now you are suddenly up close to 600. you say you have a bodybuilder diet.. is that everyday religiously? or is that just a couple times a week cause at 20 i have no doubt you also make trips to fast food places or grab a pizza..
he comes off tough but so what.. would you rather someone come on here and blow you off like a doc will do after examining you for 3 minutes and just say "yeah lets just put you on HRT for life" ??? or would you rather someone tell you how to correct the underlying problem without jerking you around or cutting corners... that is the thing with docs is that they LOVE to cut corners, after all they have their tennis match to get to.. they don't get paid to fix your problem, they get paid to put you on drugs and do tests on you. fixing your problem actually makes them LESS money as they want you to keep coming in
also the ONLY reason you know you have low T is cause you tested it. so kudos to you for doing that.. however do you know that 99% of your peers do not test it and have no clue? and i bet a huge percentage are also nutrition deficient. when i was 20 i probably was the same way but back then i had no clue about testosterone or that other shit. like ziggie said you have access to the internet today with a wealth of info so don't take things personal when someone is being direct with you. ziggie is VERY passionate about this shit and I don't blame him. problem is our world is so damn overpopulated that in 50 years the way things are going everyone at 20 will have low T and that will be considered normal
as far as your pot smoking being bad..ummm.. yeah? did u really think it was good for you? sounds like you are just a pothead when you say you smoke everyday. lets assume you stopped smoking pot, your T levels might jump 100 points.. if you took proper multi another 100 points.. if you stopped stressing over this stuff and enjoyed life at 20.. another 100 points.. now you are suddenly up close to 600. you say you have a bodybuilder diet.. is that everyday religiously? or is that just a couple times a week cause at 20 i have no doubt you also make trips to fast food places or grab a pizza..
Im a bit rusty on my fish oil but the general consensus that I subscribe to is fish oil is a good thing as long as its from cold sources and not heat processed which causes the oil to become rancid which just adds to our toxic load. 3g seems to be a good starting point. I know a lot of high end athletes literally take >10g a day. Have to be careful with thinning your blood too much though.
Recently there was a study done on selenium and vit E as they relate to prostate cancer. Over the course of the study they found in the men who got prostate cancer there were elevated amounts of omega 3's. They also claimed the the selenium had no effect and vit E raised risk slightly.
The problems with so many of these nutritional studies is that first and foremost the overall health of an individual is questionable at best and secondly a complete nutritional evaluation isnt done for participants and in cases where one element may be missing from a diet, adding others may promote the bodies secondary actions that are often (inaccurately) linked to disease or make something worse.
What I mean by the above is that often times having a nutritional imbalance can have a negative effect and if that isnt considered or taken into account then it can lead to an inaccurate or at least misleading outcome.
A prime example of this is iodine and selenium. If you supplement with selenium and are iodine deficient it will just make your iodine deficiency even worse. Thyroid health does have a direct effect on prostate health so maybe the results from the study were also impacted by degrading thyroid function by adding selenium but not iodine?
Recently there was a study done on selenium and vit E as they relate to prostate cancer. Over the course of the study they found in the men who got prostate cancer there were elevated amounts of omega 3's. They also claimed the the selenium had no effect and vit E raised risk slightly.
The problems with so many of these nutritional studies is that first and foremost the overall health of an individual is questionable at best and secondly a complete nutritional evaluation isnt done for participants and in cases where one element may be missing from a diet, adding others may promote the bodies secondary actions that are often (inaccurately) linked to disease or make something worse.
What I mean by the above is that often times having a nutritional imbalance can have a negative effect and if that isnt considered or taken into account then it can lead to an inaccurate or at least misleading outcome.
A prime example of this is iodine and selenium. If you supplement with selenium and are iodine deficient it will just make your iodine deficiency even worse. Thyroid health does have a direct effect on prostate health so maybe the results from the study were also impacted by degrading thyroid function by adding selenium but not iodine?
Shrine1
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I also read the some of the same studies regarding too much Omega.. I know one is for heart health and the other is for brain so im assuming taking both is a plus... but that helps in terms of a benchmark to how much one can supplement fish oil.
I also supplement vitamin e.. ill have to do a bit more research becuase I didnt know of any studies leading to prostate cancer..
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