Why do people here bag on cutting cycle's and low body fat %??

[t3c]

I didn't read the others posts, but I just dont get WHY someone would want to go on these cutting cycles.

You drop calories, add more cardio...its like taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back...i don't like stepping back for anything, but thats just me

also I dont see how anyone who bodybuilds NATURALLY who enters competition would want to put themselves through that. I mean yea the pros can use drugs to aid with fat loss, muscle gain, ect. But you cutting down to like ~7% or less body fat naturally...you are going to lose some hard earned work.

 

[casualbb]

It's significantly harder to gain muscle than it is to lose fat. Hence people on this board have more respect for giant beasts than guys who are average weight but ripped. Ironically the lay people tend to prefer the ripped ones.

 

[Debaser]

Ironically it's easier for me to gain muscle. Simply because my appetite is insatiable. Even with appetite suppressants I have to exert extreme willpower to eat less. I'm cutting right now and this is the only time I've been able to stick to it for more than 2 weeks.

Also, thaibox, I have a somewhat unrelated question for you, being that you have extensive NHB/MMA knowledge:

Though there are some pretty lean fighters (Frank Shamrock), why don't some of the fighters try and get leaner/more muscular? I ask this for weight class reasons. Wouldn't rather be 200 @ 8% BF than 12%? This means more muscle/more strength. The only time BF affects your stamina is at the ultra low ranges (under 6) right?

 

[louden_swain]

Theres nothing wrong with cutting. . .all people have different goals. You have:

- competitive athletes
- strongman/strongwoman
- powerlifters
- bodybuilders
- models

All of these types can be really lean, its just that some people are interested in gaining extra strength and size and this is difficult to achieve if you aren't eating enough calories (healthy foods). Cutting tends to hinder progress for several people. . including me.

The key is to keep the metabolism elevated.

 

[IronLion]

If this thread was aimed at me then say so Cobra.

I don't respect people who are motivated soley by mirrors or the opposite sex. I don't give a fuck if that steps on toes. I don't care if you think I am a fatfuck who can't get lean. I do this shit for me.....fuck everyone else. Fuck the homosexuality in the media that has guys brainwashed into thinking that a man has to be in Abercrombie shape to be good looking. If you want to be a piece of ass then more fucking power to you.

I take this lifestyle seriously and have made countless sacrifices to be where I am. The reason I am sick of shit like this is because a six pack is not a lifestyle, it is a 9 week diet followed by some maintenance. Get over yourself.

 

[spatts]

You're wrong, Ironlion.





It's a 12 week diet.

 

[louden_swain]

You're wrong, Ironlion.

You are or You're. . . . .lol

 

[Cuthbert]

i don't need to be lean.

chicks dig my deadlift.

 

[louden_swain]

If this thread was aimed at me then say so Cobra.

I don't respect people who are motivated soley by mirrors or the opposite sex. I don't give a fuck if that steps on toes. I don't care if you think I am a fatfuck who can't get lean. I do this shit for me.....fuck everyone else. Fuck the homosexuality in the media that has guys brainwashed into thinking that a man has to be in Abercrombie shape to be good looking. If you want to be a piece of ass then more fucking power to you.

I take this lifestyle seriously and have made countless sacrifices to be where I am. The reason I am sick of shit like this is because a six pack is not a lifestyle, it is a 9 week diet followed by some maintenance. Get over yourself.

I love the intensity from this guy!!

 

[CobraUTAH]

Ironlion, your post in the HIIT thread was the final negative comment that did spur this thread, but don't get all defensive your not the only asshole here. You made this personal with your post here and with your bagging of other people's training styles etc. Cycle = an interval of time during which a sequence of a recurring succession of events or phenomena is completed, i.e. eating the same tasteless bland food for weeks on end! I can use whatever I want as a word describing the time I spend dieting or dropping/cutting/losing/removing/burning/eliminating/disapating excess body fat. As for your other comments that make it seem as though I attacked you somehow they are bullshit. No kidding you do this for you, SO DO I. In case you had some misconception about who I am because YOU think I'm motivated by something or someone other than myself is rediculous. I lift for me my goals are to be 210 pounds and low single digit body fat deal with that fat fuck. As for media influencing what I want maybe, but I have my goals and you have yours. I want something you don't. There are different ways of doing things and to say that one requires more work than the other is pointless until you've walked a mile. I enjoy sports like basketball and baseball, I chose to be a bit more lean and agile and for ME I need to be a certain size. I unlike yourself respect the work you've done and the goals that you've set. You don't know me and never will no big deal but show some respect and support for others. It's a sad person that sits in the gym and just makes fun of others for doing things wrong instead of offering some advice. Finally I set goals for myself and one was to reach as high a body weight and strength level that I could in three months time, and then cut down as far as I can go while trying to maintain as much lean mass as possible. Once I get there I am going to try to keep my lean abs and build back up my weight and strength. I wanted to lean out my abs because I wasn't happy with how they looked, because in my head it wasn't what I wanted.