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Solid thread though. Lift, eat, rest = grow.
Why do people here bag on cutting cycle's and low body fat %??
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Solid thread though. Lift, eat, rest = grow.
Another concept regarding bodyfat and weight is this. Say one guy is 265 pounds and 20% bodyfat, that leaves him with 53 pounds of fat and 212 pounds of lean mass. The second guy weighs only 220 and is 5%, leaving him with 11 pounds of fat and a lean mass of 209. Which guy would you respect more assuming they are roughly the same height and frame size. According to most here the 5% guy is a gay model trying to impress the women all the time while the 20% guy is a serious hard core power lifter, no fag stuff for him. Also these guys both lift similar poundages in the core lifts. Why is there a difference in how you see these two guys, they both have nearly the same lean mass which sort of assumes the fact that they worked equally hard to build the lean useful weight. I didn't come to this site for any other reason than to learn more about lifting and training, to have a place to chat with others that I thought had a similar passion trying to improve upon what they were dealt through genetics.
LS, I abused my mod powers to make you like a jackass. Don't tell. 
Cobra, being lean is about diet. I'm not defending Ironlion, but he has a point. You're not going to find anyone much faster, stronger, or more agile than him. Not at 200, 250 or even 300 pounds...and he's 320. He knows his shit, and when it comes to TRAINING I have never seen him put down another person's regimen. What he is not-so-eloquently trying to hammer into your head is that being lean is a DIET issue. This does not mean that he neglects diet, or that any of us do. In fact, IL has an AWESOME diet, and that's saying a lot coming from me. It's not a problem to want to be lean or want to learn more about it...to each his own, but when that goal is a diet question, it needs to be in the diet forum.
On June 10th you started a thread on this EXACT topic, wherein you were given alot of information, including the information that you didn't need to train upper and lower abs separately, and that leanness in the abs was a diet issue. Yet, you kept posting the SAME question. In fact, on June 11th you, yourself, said this:
I think the frustation lies in the fact that you know what to do but you keep asking about it anyway. How much more can we say to help you? If we are not being clear about what you need to do, ask for clarification. Trolls come in here and waste our time, all the time. Your style makes people, me included, wonder if you are doing that too.
Cobra, being lean is about diet. I'm not defending Ironlion, but he has a point. You're not going to find anyone much faster, stronger, or more agile than him. Not at 200, 250 or even 300 pounds...and he's 320. He knows his shit, and when it comes to TRAINING I have never seen him put down another person's regimen. What he is not-so-eloquently trying to hammer into your head is that being lean is a DIET issue. This does not mean that he neglects diet, or that any of us do. In fact, IL has an AWESOME diet, and that's saying a lot coming from me. It's not a problem to want to be lean or want to learn more about it...to each his own, but when that goal is a diet question, it needs to be in the diet forum.
On June 10th you started a thread on this EXACT topic, wherein you were given alot of information, including the information that you didn't need to train upper and lower abs separately, and that leanness in the abs was a diet issue. Yet, you kept posting the SAME question. In fact, on June 11th you, yourself, said this:
CobraUTAH said:
I think the frustation lies in the fact that you know what to do but you keep asking about it anyway. How much more can we say to help you? If we are not being clear about what you need to do, ask for clarification. Trolls come in here and waste our time, all the time. Your style makes people, me included, wonder if you are doing that too.
Thai I'm sorry but no thanks. I feel I have a right to defend my training style and methods when they are trashed. I don't know everything and that's fine, that's why I read and post here. I certainly didn't come here saying all you powerlifters are stupid and lifting to much and that your unhealthy because your bf is too high and your risking serious joint injuries do to the massive poundages you lift. I'm a lover not a fighter.
You don't even know our body fat %...now you're pissing me off. You're the pot calling the kettle black.
Any powerlifter who has a bodyfat % that's too high has one because of his diet...same reason you can't see your abs.
If it makes you feel any better, this powerlifter has a very visible 6-pack. You trashing my training now?
Any powerlifter who has a bodyfat % that's too high has one because of his diet...same reason you can't see your abs.
If it makes you feel any better, this powerlifter has a very visible 6-pack. You trashing my training now?
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