Whole foods PWO?

[jwo02]

I could give a damn about your opinions of me. I'm just stating the fact.

1. I don't think you know what you are talking about personally.

Glad someone else has figured this out.


By the way, quit talking about someone bringing up something irrelevant and then you bring up a video about a deadlift. I mean, we all know you're just tyring to change the subject because you're way out of your league with Johnson but damn. Pathetic.

 

[dabuffguy]

Glad someone else has figured this out.


By the way, quit talking about someone bringing up something irrelevant and then you bring up a video about a deadlift. I mean, we all know you're just tyring to change the subject because you're way out of your league with Johnson but damn. Pathetic.

Lol @ u bro.

For real, you are the most clueless person on this site. And you have the audacity to insult my intelligence? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

 

[jwo02]

Clueless...dude look at your avatar and YOU'RE trying to give ME diet advice. HAHAHAHA.

 

[dabuffguy]

Clueless...dude look at your avatar and YOU'RE trying to give ME diet advice. HAHAHAHA.

I am bulking and holding water, and my BF is only 12%. Plus, my pathetically pale skin reflected off the bathroom lights doesn't help the cause. Just because I am not ripped to shreds at the moment doesn't mean I don't know how to diet. Please. Just another sign of your ignorance.


BTW, I weigh 225lbs with 18" arms. How much do you weigh? 175 with a 14.5" arm?

Yep, you are stacked bro. Go eat something, because you might blow away in the wind if you walk outside.

 

[desmond]

Ok: this thread had the potential to be interesting and informative. It briefly degenerated into a mudslinging match - unfortunate, but I guess this is partly because of the keen interest in the subject matter.

Let's bring the subject matter back to the threadstarter's intention.

 

[dabuffguy]

When bulking I use a very high carb approach for PWO.

OneBreath thinks it's funny i do this like a ritual, lol.


Immediately PWO, I take 30 grams WM, followed 10-15 minutes later by 50grams whey protein isolate mixed with another 30 gram of WM.

30 minutes after that, I down 1 cup of oats. 30-45 minutes following that, I eat a full meal. 12 oz of meat, 3 cups of green veggies, 1/2 cup of brown rice or other low GI carb(may be whole wheat bread. 32 oz of 1% milk. Plus multi-vitamns and such.


Plenty of protein and carbs PWO to ensure nutrition, and plenty of fuel to repair and build.


If I we're cutting, I would only do 30gm WM, 50 gm whey, and 1/2 cup of oats. Followed by a full meal with water instead of milk, and a littl more meat.

 

[gjohnson5]

I am bulking and holding water, and my BF is only 12%. Plus, my pathetically pale skin reflected off the bathroom lights doesn't help the cause. Just because I am not ripped to shreds at the moment doesn't mean I don't know how to diet. Please. Just another sign of your ignorance.


BTW, I weigh 225lbs with 18" arms. How much do you weigh? 175 with a 14.5" arm?

Yep, you are stacked bro. Go eat something, because you might blow away in the wind if you walk outside.

LOL @ taking his side and getting ripped as well, Casper

 

[dabuffguy]

LOL @ taking his side and getting ripped as well, Casper

and if you think the dude in that avatar is 10% bodyfat , you need to get a clue

I said 12%, not 10%(nice post edit, lol). Plus, that pic was taken 4 weeks ago at the end of my kicker with a-bombs, where I was holding quite a bit of water at almost 230 lbs. Which effectively gave me the appearance of having 14-15% BF, when in fact it is only 12%. I dropped to 223 in like a week, and have since then added 2 pounds, to come to my stated 225.




Quit the bickering bro. Get back to the thread like desmond said. I attempted to move forward, but you keep going with this kid shit. For the third time, and along with cobra's addition, GROW UP!

 

[gjohnson5]

When bulking I use a very high carb approach for PWO.

Personally it looks to be all fat based on that approach as well.

OneBreath thinks it's funny i do this like a ritual, lol.

Well it looks to be overkill.
I've removed th rest of it because your PWO approach probably has more to do with the fat content then any prohormones you were running.

If I were you I would switch some of that food to pre workout as the exessive carbs don't look like they are needed. Some of those calories can be used during workouts. Most young people seem to think thier workouts completely drain their glycogen (LOL @ the inexperience) and hence need to really load up on carbs afterwards


I would say it's you who need to grow up and learn a little about nutrition

 

[desmond]

I said 12%, not 10%(nice post edit, lol). Plus, that pic was taken 4 weeks ago at the end of my kicker with a-bombs, where I was holding quite a bit of water at almost 230 lbs. Which effectively gave me the appearance of having 14-15% BF, when in fact it is only 12%. I dropped to 223 in like a week, and have since then added 2 pounds, to come to my stated 225.

I respectfully do think your PWO regimen is extreme overkill.

How long do you work out for? What are your rest breaks, rep ranges, exercise type (compound v isolation).

To put it this way, it is unlikely one hour of weights burns more than 100 carbs. Typical estimates of weights is taht it burns less than < 500 cals (except perhap for a leg only routine), and even assuming 80% of what is burned is carbs (whilst weights are anerobic, u'd burn some fat during rest breaks etc), that still leaves you with 100 carbs.

Inflate all these figures significantly (which are already generous), and we could generously say you may have burned 150 carbs (which I doubt).

YOu have:
- 60g WMS carbs;
- 60g Oat carbs
- say 10 green veggies carbs
- unsure ur brown rice carbs, but I'm guessing quite possibly another 60.
- another 40 milk carbs
- likely carbs from some glucogenisis of whey

So your getting 200+ carbs PWO. Seems a tad too much IMO - but if its working for you fine.

Some of those carbs coudl be useful pre-workout, unless your goal is to increase natural GH release during exericse (although apparnetly effect of this is minor).

I don't have exact figures, but there is as far as I'm aware of a maximum rate of glycogen resynthesis (indeed, tour de france and marathon runners burn more cals in comp that this rate).