when is it ok to eat carbs again??

[Joe Stenson]

i have noticed that cutting carbs in the afternoon /nighttime makes a huge difference

It's probably more that this is making you eat less total calories than you were before than the fact that you're not eating carbs. Not having carbs after a certain time of day is a myth. But when you're not replacing the calories with an equivalent amount in protein or fat, it's going to work anyway...just not for the reason people believe.

 

[Joe Stenson]

im planning to cut in two weeks, and i have no idea how im gunna keep anything since im way too lazy to actually count shit...

Can't say I have much sympathy for you.

If you're too lazy to count calories on a cut OR a bulk, expect less than optimal results. That's fine for some people, not for others. To each their own.

 

[Yarg!]

can i say fuck it to carb timing, but just cut down on calories? i mean, can i will not like gorge a loaf of bread and bucket of pasta or anything, ill still watch my carbs ofcourse, but can i sitll eat carbs after like 6,7, 8pm , but at the same time tone down on calories and do exercises to balance it all out?

 

[Burning_Inside]

can i say fuck it to carb timing, but just cut down on calories? i mean, can i will not like gorge a loaf of bread and bucket of pasta or anything, ill still watch my carbs ofcourse, but can i sitll eat carbs after like 6,7, 8pm , but at the same time tone down on calories and do exercises to balance it all out?

with a slowed nighttime metabolism, carbs could end up not getting completely digested and end up stored as extra fat.

 

[Sub-Zero]

with a slowed nighttime metabolism, carbs could end up not getting completely digested and end up stored as extra fat.

you said its all about time of day, according to sleep wake, not actual TIME per se

how many hours before sleep time would u suggest not eatin carbs

 

[Joe Stenson]

can i say fuck it to carb timing, but just cut down on calories? i mean, can i will not like gorge a loaf of bread and bucket of pasta or anything, ill still watch my carbs ofcourse, but can i sitll eat carbs after like 6,7, 8pm , but at the same time tone down on calories and do exercises to balance it all out?

Cutting down on calories is BETTER than watching carb intake. Just make sure you're getting adequate protein and EFAs first and foremost.

 

[Joe Stenson]

with a slowed nighttime metabolism, carbs could end up not getting completely digested and end up stored as extra fat.

And how is that going to happen if he's in a caloric deficit for the day? Or even at maintenance for that matter?

 

[Burning_Inside]

And how is that going to happen if he's in a caloric deficit for the day? Or even at maintenance for that matter?

Well let's hear your explanation on how it won't happen.

See that's why I stopped posting on these forums for so long, people seem more like they are looking to one up the previous poster and look smarter by calling them out rather than just posting facts to the contrary and not try and spark an arguement.

if you have info on hand that you feel supercedes my own, then post it.

 

[Burning_Inside]

you said its all about time of day, according to sleep wake, not actual TIME per se

how many hours before sleep time would u suggest not eatin carbs

I really don't know it's all different per person. general guideline I guess is about say 2 hours? Depends how long insulin lingers around. Use a glucometer to be certain is really all I can tell ya.

Your metabolism slows at night, and you can't burn fat with insulin present in your system, so...Why hinder fat store burning at night by eating anything warranting an insulin response? That could include diet drinks too. Artificial sweeteners CAN cause insulin spikes in some people.

 

[Joe Stenson]

Well let's hear your explanation on how it won't happen.

See that's why I stopped posting on these forums for so long, people seem more like they are looking to one up the previous poster and look smarter by calling them out rather than just posting facts to the contrary and not try and spark an arguement.

if you have info on hand that you feel supercedes my own, then post it.

I'm not trying to "one-up" you. If someone posts something that is flawed, it's likely someone else will point it out.

Dieting is basically all about calories in vs. calories out. There are other factors to consider, but nothing matters nearly as much as the almighty calorie.

If someone's maintenance calorie level is 3000 calories, and this person consumes 2500 calories each day, he/she is going to lose weight, period. And given an adequate protein intake, a large portion of that weight loss will come from fat. Whether this person ingested 0g carbs, 100g carbs, or 200g carbs is irrelevant as long as total calories are the same. And whether these carbs come in the morning or at night is equally as irrelevant. (Granted, you may have slightly better insulin sensitivity at certain points in the day, but the differences will not be overly drastic. Partitioning effects will be greatest after training so centering carb intake around workouts is a good approach...however, again this is not nearly as important as total calories consumed.)

I think your biggest problem is that you seem to be under the impression that your metabolism slows down greatly at night. It slows for sure, but by a negligible amount.