Vertical Leap training thread

[coolcolj]

Well that's just common sense isn't it? Jump to jump better....
Off course you better make sure your jumping properly to begin with, and firing the muscles in the proper order and sequence etc etc

but that will only work for so long, maybe a few months. Then your gonna have to make your body put out more force, and use more intense methods to create more gains

And a jump isn't always a jump. You can have 2 people jumping the same height, but one may get up into the air much quicker, no prizes for guessing what that means in sports. How you train and what you do can make a big difference here

 

[KOArtist]

Hey CCJ, I was wondering, do you ever combine your "divebomber" squats w/ a jump at the top? Or is that just asking for an injury?

 

[coolcolj]

I have in the past, but that's not the point in doing em anyway

the loads will be fairly heavy and so the speed will be slow, which won't help an unloaded jump that much. Plus you ahve to land and absorb the forces! Not everyone is strong enough to do that...

jumpsquats should not use more than 10-15% of bodyweight if you want transfer to an unloaded jump

heavier loads can help olys though

 

[KOArtist]

So youre saying you go lighter for the jumpsquats and then heavier weights for the "divebomber" squats, right?

 

[coolcolj]

Yes

have a look in my training log from about 2 weeks ago I did such a workout. complexing a set of drop squats with 115lbs and jumpsquats with 25lbs, with a video of em as well

The drop/reactive squats should use around 50-55% of your 1RM+85% bodyweight for speed and VJ goals. If it's a negative value, get stronger first

 

[gjohnson5]

I MEANT in the long term situation, obviously, as I said to try running every day for a MONTH and then retest your squat.

The only thing silly is believing that endurance training will help your VJ, which must be what you believe ("I guess the better question is why do you not believe that building endurance increase vj."

LOL, take "building endurance" to the extreme and what do you have? A bunch of slow-twitch marathon runner looking fools that can't jump for shit, although they may be able to repeat their 5 inch vert 1,000 times, lol.

You know , I never read this rubbish...
I used to sprint quarters and I had well over a 45-50 vertical leap, and I never squatted more then 315 back then.

Yes , running does help your vertical. Once again the armchair quarterback with no sports training say all sorts of silly junk such as the junk above

 

[gjohnson5]

don't need to do any weight training to jump high

just genetics and plyometrics to improve a little.

I'm sure Vince Carter and them spent a lot of time doing squats in HS

Absolutely, this is my point exactly

 

[coolcolj]

But your 45-50inch VJ was not a standing one though - flat footed etc

and there's the difference

there is nobody in this world that can jump over 40inches standing flat footed without training - period
You need to be damn strong in relation to your bodyweight to do that as a basic requirement. The human body is not exactly a light thing.

standing 2 footed VJ or even 2 leg running jumps to a lesser degree, require more strength than reactivity. Running one leg jumps are mostly reactive, people who jump like this don't need to be as strong, but they are usually very light as well

 

[coolcolj]

Words of wisdom from kelly Bagget

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/jumptraininglesson2.html

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/jumptraininglesson3.html

 

[gjohnson5]

But your 45-50inch VJ was not a standing one though - flat footed etc

and there's the difference

there is nobody in this world that can jump over 40inches standing flat footed without training - period
You need to be damn strong in relation to your bodyweight to do that as a basic requirement. The human body is not exactly a light thing.

standing 2 footed VJ or even 2 leg running jumps to a lesser degree, require more strength than reactivity. Running one leg jumps are mostly reactive, people who jump like this don't need to be as strong, but they are usually very light as well

And I'll repeat my inital question , when in basketball , or any sport for that matter , do you jump from a flat footed position??