Soreness dilemma.

[bignate73]

If I get sore the same night, or early the next morning after a workout, is that bad. Let me rephrase that, how much of a delay before soreness does there have to be before it would be called DOMS? Also, often, after absolute balls out intensity in a workout (legs two days ago) I may be sore for 4 or 5 days. Is that then considered DOMS no matter when it started?

TIA,

ND

there is a difference between immediate soreness post workout and that which shows up 24-48 hours (DOMS) after a workout.

 

[aurelius]

Great post BigNate.

This "working the muscle" needed clarification.

 

[Edu]

mentzer is a lunatic?

you make me laugh, arthur jones, mentzer, and some other show the best way to build muscles.

 

[SSAlexSS]

mentzer is a lunatic?

you make me laugh, arthur jones, mentzer, and some other show the best way to build muscles.

Menzter is a lunatic. He took too much amphetamines (read a CRACK ADDICT).

His methods are Welcome relief from 6 days per week 2 a day Arnold training. But, while Arnold took it to one extreme Menzter took it toward other extreme.

Extremes of training arent good for muscle building.

BUT Arnolds type of training IS more reasonable for muscle growth than menzters.


I am glad that I stoped following Menzter. Deadlifting twice or even 3 times a week has really been nice (I actually had three workouts days last week).

Now I know why I had problems deadlifting once a week. i was constantly detraining!!!!

 

[Edu]

It's ridiculous, 1 set it's what you nedd to grow, and everbody can prove this, go to the gym and do it.
But, do correctly, read a lot of heavy duty, and high intensity tranning, than after go to the gym, and see the results.

 

[Edu]

Don't say that mentzer is a lunatic, because you are the only that don't see results with hevy duty.
probabily your trainning was wrong.

 

[needsize]

Once time per week is bad/slow for gains. On myself I saw that I for biggest deadlifting strength increase I must train 2x per week (maybe more... I havent tested more often lifting. I read too much Mentzer bull )

SSAlexSS, there is apparently no end to your theories is there? Christ, I'm still waiting to see you back up your theories with some evidence, say a pic, to show us what they have accomplished on your physique?

If 1x per week per body part is not enough, then explain why that is the way that I have made all of my gains, size and strength. I'm not high on myself but this 1x per week training has given me a very advanced physique with pics on here to prove it, and even though I'm not a powerlifter, this training has allowed me to hit lifts big enough to compete as one.

Show us what your theories have done for you...........

 

[Complete Muscle]

...Initially, you should avoid any vigorous activity that increases pain, though you may work the unaffected areas of your body. By exercising unaffected areas or by performing low-impact aerobic activities such as biking or walking at a moderate pace, blood flow can be increased to the affected muscles, which may help diminish soreness...

This pretty much sums up my experience! I had to lower my volume considerably to deal with extreme DOMS. And that's when I really started seeing results!

 

[HighIntensity]

as mentioned before soreness is a normal part of training. After time your body will adjust and you will not experince as much discomfort, as long as there is no pain work through it/.

 

[SSAlexSS]

It's ridiculous, 1 set it's what you nedd to grow, and everbody can prove this, go to the gym and do it.
But, do correctly, read a lot of heavy duty, and high intensity tranning, than after go to the gym, and see the results.

OK.

It was shown MANY times that 3 sets is better than one.

Furthermore strength increase is vital for muscle increase. Guess what do strongest people do to achieve strength? They never train to failure! And they do it with multiple sets.

There arent any good HIT bodybuilders (except menzer himself).
Howeever there are PLENTY higher volume training people.

Look there are few good ways to train, and HIT just inst there.

Dont train to FAIL, train to SUCCEED!