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Site injections worked for me
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jakethemus
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I think it works.
As for the massive arse thing, the glutes are a very big muscle compared to say bi's/tri's so it would take a lot more cc to notice a difference.
As for the massive arse thing, the glutes are a very big muscle compared to say bi's/tri's so it would take a lot more cc to notice a difference.
nandroloner
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Since the AS can't do anything anyway until the ester is removed, and the ester is removed in the bloodstream through enzymatic reaction, I can't see the advantage of site-injecting any esterized AS. Testerone Suspension, on the other hand, now I can see how that may be effective for site injections. Any other non-esterized AS could conceivably be effective for site injections.
nandroloner
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nandroloner said:
I would like the opinion of some mods and vets on this. I don't want to stick holes all over myself if it's not going to do any good.
The Iron Game
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nandroloner
You are correct in saying that suspension will probably be of most benefit but try injecting that into your bi's or tri's. I wouldnt really recommend it. If you are going to mix it with B12. When you inject into local muscle groups that are relatively small in size (not the quads and glutes) with 2-3cc's of oil then it is safe to say that this oil remains in the site injected in for a relatively long period of time. I mean it doesnt leave right away. Now so you have say 3cc's in your bicep and as a result your muscle fascia is going to stretch. Now if you stretch it you will have more room for new growth no?
Now why dont you have a large quad or glute because according to this theory you should do. Right? Wrong. Look at the size of the biceps compared to the size of your quads or glutes. Lets say the quad is 6-7 times bigger than your bicep. If you inject 3cc's into the bicep then to see the same results you would need to inject 6 - 7 times this amount in the quad. ( 18 - 21cc's ).
Ever seen anyone do this?
Then there is also the increased blood flow / pump that is of benefit.
IMHO Site injection does work
You are correct in saying that suspension will probably be of most benefit but try injecting that into your bi's or tri's. I wouldnt really recommend it. If you are going to mix it with B12. When you inject into local muscle groups that are relatively small in size (not the quads and glutes) with 2-3cc's of oil then it is safe to say that this oil remains in the site injected in for a relatively long period of time. I mean it doesnt leave right away. Now so you have say 3cc's in your bicep and as a result your muscle fascia is going to stretch. Now if you stretch it you will have more room for new growth no?
Now why dont you have a large quad or glute because according to this theory you should do. Right? Wrong. Look at the size of the biceps compared to the size of your quads or glutes. Lets say the quad is 6-7 times bigger than your bicep. If you inject 3cc's into the bicep then to see the same results you would need to inject 6 - 7 times this amount in the quad. ( 18 - 21cc's ).
Ever seen anyone do this?
Then there is also the increased blood flow / pump that is of benefit.
IMHO Site injection does work
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nandroloner
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Thanks Iron Game. If I understand you correctly then, you are attributing most of the effectiveness of site injections to the stretching of the muscle fascia by the oil injection rather than an anabolic/androgenic effect.
The Iron Game
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in my opinion, yes
if you want something with a twist, lutalyse
if you want something with a twist, lutalyse
nandroloner
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Interesting. I found this info on lutalyse. Sounds pretty dangerous... Also sound like it would be "killer" for losting fat, but at a high price.
Arrggghhh! Lutalyse is a veterinary drug that's coming into vogue with serious hardcore bodybuilders who'll stop at nothing to gain an "advantage" (even if it's not a real advantage). Lutalyse is made by Upjohn and is a prostaglandin (PGF2Aa).
PGF2a possibly mediates the endogenous insulin levels and is also a de facto thermogenic, as body temperature is increased after the administration of exogenous PGF2a. Unlike other fat burners, which only decrease the size of fat cells, PGF2a actually destroys them. Fat cells die when exposed to PGF2a.
Side effects associated with PGF2a use are an elevation in body temperature, vomiting, labored breathing and severe abdominal pain/cramping. As PGF2a vasoconstricts the blood vessels in the lungs, the user will feel a tightening in the chest. If you're an asthmatic, use of PGFa could very well put you into full respiratory arrest followed by death. Because PGF2a increases insulinogenic effects, hypoglycemia is a potential side effect.
PGF2a has a very short half-life in the body (only minutes) and most of it is metabolized in the lungs, thus making frequent injections necessary. PGF2a will almost always cause a very strong contraction of the intestine and bladder, emptying the stomach and intestines of all its contents. That's a nice way of saying you'll have explosive diarrhea.
Rumor has it that PGF2a will make training near impossible because of the pump that is created from this drug alone. One of the logistical drawbacks of PGF2a is the difficulty of administration. As it has such a short half-life, injections will be needed quite frequently. Lutalyse comes in a 5 ml (5 mg/ml) multi-dose vial. A single aspirin can render the effects of Lutalyse nonexistent, so most people who use this drug avoid aspirin and aspirin analogs.
Legit use of Lutalyse is by "Farmer Joe." Farmers and ranchers will use this drug to induce abortions in barnyard animals. One-hundred percent of the idiots, uh, I mean, users, I spoke with told me that Lutalyse made them feel terrible. In short, this stuff could kill you, a lot faster that steroids ever could. I wouldn't suggest anyone try this stuff.
Look, if you're an IFBB professional, you certainly don't want or need my advice. But if you're an average person looking to pack on some mass, this is just not worth the risks. Interleukin-15 and Epidural Growth Factor are peptide hormones that are also emerging as "noveau drugs" for the bodybuilding elite. Only a person with a death wish would try either of them (or Lutalyse).
Arrggghhh! Lutalyse is a veterinary drug that's coming into vogue with serious hardcore bodybuilders who'll stop at nothing to gain an "advantage" (even if it's not a real advantage). Lutalyse is made by Upjohn and is a prostaglandin (PGF2Aa).
PGF2a possibly mediates the endogenous insulin levels and is also a de facto thermogenic, as body temperature is increased after the administration of exogenous PGF2a. Unlike other fat burners, which only decrease the size of fat cells, PGF2a actually destroys them. Fat cells die when exposed to PGF2a.
Side effects associated with PGF2a use are an elevation in body temperature, vomiting, labored breathing and severe abdominal pain/cramping. As PGF2a vasoconstricts the blood vessels in the lungs, the user will feel a tightening in the chest. If you're an asthmatic, use of PGFa could very well put you into full respiratory arrest followed by death. Because PGF2a increases insulinogenic effects, hypoglycemia is a potential side effect.
PGF2a has a very short half-life in the body (only minutes) and most of it is metabolized in the lungs, thus making frequent injections necessary. PGF2a will almost always cause a very strong contraction of the intestine and bladder, emptying the stomach and intestines of all its contents. That's a nice way of saying you'll have explosive diarrhea.
Rumor has it that PGF2a will make training near impossible because of the pump that is created from this drug alone. One of the logistical drawbacks of PGF2a is the difficulty of administration. As it has such a short half-life, injections will be needed quite frequently. Lutalyse comes in a 5 ml (5 mg/ml) multi-dose vial. A single aspirin can render the effects of Lutalyse nonexistent, so most people who use this drug avoid aspirin and aspirin analogs.
Legit use of Lutalyse is by "Farmer Joe." Farmers and ranchers will use this drug to induce abortions in barnyard animals. One-hundred percent of the idiots, uh, I mean, users, I spoke with told me that Lutalyse made them feel terrible. In short, this stuff could kill you, a lot faster that steroids ever could. I wouldn't suggest anyone try this stuff.
Look, if you're an IFBB professional, you certainly don't want or need my advice. But if you're an average person looking to pack on some mass, this is just not worth the risks. Interleukin-15 and Epidural Growth Factor are peptide hormones that are also emerging as "noveau drugs" for the bodybuilding elite. Only a person with a death wish would try either of them (or Lutalyse).
The Iron Game
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nandroloner, quite a few peeps on this board have used or do use pgf2. Hell growing without training 
although it ins't for the faint hearted and those who are not serious about the life
although it ins't for the faint hearted and those who are not serious about the life
