Shoulders, king of all bodyparts. Treat them as such!!

[Thaibox]

Bring yourself to a 250-300 lb overhead press, then let me know if you think 30 lb dumbell raises will make all the difference.

Man, a long time ago, I was ganged up on by the lat raise crew, where were you then?

Lat raises are to delts as cable crossovers are to pecs(well, maybe not that bad, but close)

 

[latinus_spicticus]

One point to consider- the triceps are the deciding factor in any type of press: OH, bench, incline, etc. They are equally as important as deltoids when pressing (not including push press, as that has a lot of leg drive to get through the sticking point where the tris take over). I am sure that adding compound lifts like OHP, inclines, db shoulder presses, ect. are beneficial as long as you aren't overtraing, but tricep extensions and board presses will help your shoulder press as much as direct delt work, IMO. Oh, and I think rear/lateral raises/db cleans/rotator work are very worthwhile for structurally balanced shoulders-- OH presses work the anterior and side delts a hell of a lot more than the rear delts/upper back.

 

[collegiateLifter]

In my opinion, shoulders are the bodypart that seperates lifters from the turds.

I'd probably go with the more dreadful legs, perhaps shoulders behind in #2.

 

[punch]

The debate of " WHAT " excersise build the best shoulder has been thrashed around many times in the past. So, I will state again, that for BB purposes one could not afford to perform presses alone. You simply would never place in a show. PL is a different story.

I am living proof that Lateral raises both side, front and bent over contribute to a 3 dimensional, proportional shoulder girdle.

You dont do squats as the ONLY excersise for legs just as you would not perform bent over rows as your only movement for back. So to say that laterals are a waste of time, is, IMO, rather silly.

 

[Thaibox]

You dont do squats as the ONLY excersise for legs just as you would not perform bent over rows as your only movement for back. So to say that laterals are a waste of time, is, IMO, rather silly.

I didn't say they are a waste of time. I was implying that they are secondary to presses. I always do a couple sets of raises after my presses. But, for me, if I had to choose only one lift for delts, it would be presses.

But that's just me

 

[punch]

Gotcha bro, sorry for the miscommunication. Makes more sense.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Presses for me to.

Debaser can you press 250 OHP?

 

[punch]

you boyz are animals!!!!

 

[Debaser]

Debaser can you press 250 OHP?

No. One day I will get there though, and my shoulders are definitely growing to my satisfaction on the way there

 

[Debaser]

You dont do squats as the ONLY excersise for legs just as you would not perform bent over rows as your only movement for back. So to say that laterals are a waste of time, is, IMO, rather silly.

Actually, I do squats as the only exercise to my quads. I only do three total for my legs (squats, SLDL and calf raises). You can't compare the shoulder to the entire leg. Maybe the entire arm.

By the way, deadlifts and rows pound your rear delts.