Serious young teen first cycle.

[yammyVR46]

I know what to expect when I'm about to establish I'm soon to be 17 and will start my first cycle at 17. I will be taking the common first cycle of test for 10 weeks and dbol to for the first 3-4 weeks as a kickstart. PCT of Clomid and Nolva. I am 16 years old, 6ft tall, 205lbs at approx 13% bodyfat. Before you jump to conclusions I will be gaining as much knowledge I can get before I pin, and will be starting whether I have your approval or not. I have been reading other logs/threads but just wanted some input before I start in the next few months or so. For example; has anybody done cycles/gear at 17?

Lifting stats are as follows:
Bench: 275
Squat: 315
Deadlift: 420

I am 100% committed to bodybuilding and the lifestyle, I train old-school and heavy. I prep my meals daily and I am absolutely sure I want to continue bodybuilding for the rest of my life.

 

[stevesmi]

you can bodybuild without using hormones ... you know that right?

if you want to do it with or without anyones approval then why post? read the rules.

you are making the worst mistake of your life

 

[yammyVR46]

Yes I know I can do it naturally but you never amount to anything impressive that way, and I have gained a decent amount naturally. Why is it a mistake? I'm sure others have started this young who were serious enough about it.

 

[stevesmi]

because you aren't a man yet.. you are still a kid.

you do not fully mature till your 20's. if you juice now you will permanently fuck up your hormones for life. why don't you read some guys who are now in their 20's who have T levels under 200 cause they ran hormones young.

that's just the HPTA angle.

I'm not even gonna get into the financial impact, the responsibility impact. fuck you are still in high school. finish your education

yeah you have made some good gains naturally, so why mess with hormones and possibly set yourself back?

 

[yammyVR46]

I live in the UK, drugs are legal and available here. Don't get me wrong I entirely understand where you're coming from but, from my standpoint surely if I was to do this ONE cycle, finish PCT, I don't see how doing this could ruin my body? Bodies recover, that's what they do...

Even if I was to do this cycle when I'm in my 20's wouldn't it still mess up my hormones for life?

You hear about people that do no PCT and are absolutely fine!
Arnold (noob reply) apparently started at 15/16 and I'm sure others have?
I'm not saying I'm going to take drugs and become the next Arnie, but god damn it gives me a better shot at it?

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

I know what to expect when I'm about to establish I'm soon to be 17 and will start my first cycle at 17. I will be taking the common first cycle of test for 10 weeks and dbol to for the first 3-4 weeks as a kickstart. PCT of Clomid and Nolva. I am 16 years old, 6ft tall, 205lbs at approx 13% bodyfat. Before you jump to conclusions I will be gaining as much knowledge I can get before I pin, and will be starting whether I have your approval or not. I have been reading other logs/threads but just wanted some input before I start in the next few months or so. For example; has anybody done cycles/gear at 17?

Lifting stats are as follows:
Bench: 275
Squat: 315
Deadlift: 420

I am 100% committed to bodybuilding and the lifestyle, I train old-school and heavy. I prep my meals daily and I am absolutely sure I want to continue bodybuilding for the rest of my life.

My young friend. Do you realize, at your age, I can help you get the same results without actual steroids? There are plenty of things you can do even semi-naturally that don't involve taking anabolics. If you use gear now, you'll regret it, and not just for the scary reasons everyone is telling you, but because the results will suck compared to what you can get in a few years. Make your choice.

 

[Shrine1]

Iagree with the guys on this one.. if you are truly dedicated like you say you are then I would continue to train and do it later.

I waited till I was 30 and I'm so glad I did. I build a solid base and its been gains ever since

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[stevesmi]

I live in the UK, drugs are legal and available here.

these aren't drugs like smoking pot or even doing crack.. or drinking alcohol.. these are powerful hormones that have permanent ramifications on your HPTA. any idiot can get them in the USA too with or without a Rx. doesn't make it right just cause they are legal where you live. cigarettes are legal here, does that mean its okay for me to smoke 3 packs a day?

Don't get me wrong I entirely understand where you're coming from but, from my standpoint surely if I was to do this ONE cycle, finish PCT, I don't see how doing this could ruin my body? Bodies recover, that's what they do...

if you want to do 1 cycle then you are wasting your time.. there are guys on here who have done a dozen cycles and still aren't where they want to be.. I have done like 15 cycles or more and I am no where close to being where I want to be.. what makes you think 1 cycle is gonna get you there?

Even if I was to do this cycle when I'm in my 20's wouldn't it still mess up my hormones for life?

wrong.. at your age your body is going through changes and this isn't the time to screw around with your hormones

You hear about people that do no PCT and are absolutely fine!

wrong again. if you don't do pct you will lose most of your gains, pct is as important as the cycle itself. people who claim they don't pct are guys who just stay on year round, nobody who actually cycles on and off correctly will ever say to not pct.

Arnold (noob reply) apparently started at 15/16 and I'm sure others have?

you will never be Arnold.. nobody will. you can only be YOURSELF. stop trying to copy what other people did. there are millions who did what he did who never sniffed a regional NPC trophy, much less Mr Olympia.

I'm not saying I'm going to take drugs and become the next Arnie, but god damn it gives me a better shot at it?
you are only 17.. Arnold was 28 or so when he first won Mr olympia and won it last at 33, and today he wouldn't sniff it the way bodybuilding is today... with insulin and GH being introduced the average Mr. Olympia is in their late 30's. and I bet it will be into the 40's in another 10 years at this rate. you have a solid 20 more years before you can start dreaming.. you have been lifting what 2 or 3 years? you've got 20 more to go... you are strong for a 17 year old but your stats suck if you want to be a bodybuilder.. how do you know you have the genetics to bodybuild in the first place if you don't train to bodybuild?

in bold and there is no fucking way at 6 foot 205 pounds at 13% body fat with your lifts you have even sniffed your genetic potential. I weigh what you weigh and I bench 400+ and I deadlift 500+ for reps. you are well on your way to being talented at powerlifting, but you have a long way to go and have a lot of upside naturally. the difference is I have been lifting for almost 20 years, you have been lifting for a couple years. I didn't touch steroids until I had been lifting 13 years, and I had no desire to take steroids until I really felt like I was 100% commited, mature, could afford it, and had put in the years naturally first.

your problem is you have no patience and want to take short cuts and there is no such thing as a short cut!!

 

[yammyVR46]

I am literally born to bodybuild. I have 17 inch arms, a 27 inch waist with a 45 inch chest! My legs are over 26 inches (although I am 13%BF). I have a large sweep from my lats to my waist, I train to look like a bodybuilder, and I got this strong from the 10-12 rep range (sounding arrogant, sorry). Arnold was an IFBB Pro in his early 20's, he ONLY got that big from using drugs at a young age! It gave him time to work on his proportions and symmetry. I have read threads upon threads of guys saying they use no PCT, they didnt use PCT back in the day either? (I will be using PCT, if I continue with it)

So are you saying Arnold took shortcuts too? Because he started at 15/16?
Has anybody actually done a cycle at 16 and come away fine? Or is all this "It'll ruin your hormones" just theory and guess work?

 

[stevesmi]

^^ okay dude you obviously know more than everyone else on here and aren't gonna listen

typical stupid teenage behavior. you haven't even busted your first nut yet but you are already ready to use hormones

13% body fat for a 17 year old is very high. you couldn't even win a teenage bodybuilding contest with your current stats.. in fact you would get laughed off stage, but you want to bodybuild with men? I'm not being a prick but you have zero clue what you are talking about

and your lifts aren't strong for a 205 pound 6 foot person. maybe for a kid yes, but you would get destroyed in a powerlifting contest.. hell I bench 400+ and I would get destroyed

what i'm saying is you aren't ready for steroids period. even if you weren't even 17 and you were 25 you wouldn't be ready either with your stats.