Serious young teen first cycle.

[yammyVR46]

I know what to expect when I'm about to establish I'm soon to be 17 and will start my first cycle at 17. I will be taking the common first cycle of test for 10 weeks and dbol to for the first 3-4 weeks as a kickstart. PCT of Clomid and Nolva. I am 16 years old, 6ft tall, 205lbs at approx 13% bodyfat. Before you jump to conclusions I will be gaining as much knowledge I can get before I pin, and will be starting whether I have your approval or not. I have been reading other logs/threads but just wanted some input before I start in the next few months or so. For example; has anybody done cycles/gear at 17?

Lifting stats are as follows:
Bench: 275
Squat: 315
Deadlift: 420

I am 100% committed to bodybuilding and the lifestyle, I train old-school and heavy. I prep my meals daily and I am absolutely sure I want to continue bodybuilding for the rest of my life.

 

[stevesmi]

you can bodybuild without using hormones ... you know that right?

if you want to do it with or without anyones approval then why post? read the rules.

you are making the worst mistake of your life

 

[yammyVR46]

Yes I know I can do it naturally but you never amount to anything impressive that way, and I have gained a decent amount naturally. Why is it a mistake? I'm sure others have started this young who were serious enough about it.

 

[stevesmi]

because you aren't a man yet.. you are still a kid.

you do not fully mature till your 20's. if you juice now you will permanently fuck up your hormones for life. why don't you read some guys who are now in their 20's who have T levels under 200 cause they ran hormones young.

that's just the HPTA angle.

I'm not even gonna get into the financial impact, the responsibility impact. fuck you are still in high school. finish your education

yeah you have made some good gains naturally, so why mess with hormones and possibly set yourself back?

 

[yammyVR46]

I live in the UK, drugs are legal and available here. Don't get me wrong I entirely understand where you're coming from but, from my standpoint surely if I was to do this ONE cycle, finish PCT, I don't see how doing this could ruin my body? Bodies recover, that's what they do...

Even if I was to do this cycle when I'm in my 20's wouldn't it still mess up my hormones for life?

You hear about people that do no PCT and are absolutely fine!
Arnold (noob reply) apparently started at 15/16 and I'm sure others have?
I'm not saying I'm going to take drugs and become the next Arnie, but god damn it gives me a better shot at it?

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

I know what to expect when I'm about to establish I'm soon to be 17 and will start my first cycle at 17. I will be taking the common first cycle of test for 10 weeks and dbol to for the first 3-4 weeks as a kickstart. PCT of Clomid and Nolva. I am 16 years old, 6ft tall, 205lbs at approx 13% bodyfat. Before you jump to conclusions I will be gaining as much knowledge I can get before I pin, and will be starting whether I have your approval or not. I have been reading other logs/threads but just wanted some input before I start in the next few months or so. For example; has anybody done cycles/gear at 17?

Lifting stats are as follows:
Bench: 275
Squat: 315
Deadlift: 420

I am 100% committed to bodybuilding and the lifestyle, I train old-school and heavy. I prep my meals daily and I am absolutely sure I want to continue bodybuilding for the rest of my life.

My young friend. Do you realize, at your age, I can help you get the same results without actual steroids? There are plenty of things you can do even semi-naturally that don't involve taking anabolics. If you use gear now, you'll regret it, and not just for the scary reasons everyone is telling you, but because the results will suck compared to what you can get in a few years. Make your choice.

 

[Shrine1]

Iagree with the guys on this one.. if you are truly dedicated like you say you are then I would continue to train and do it later.

I waited till I was 30 and I'm so glad I did. I build a solid base and its been gains ever since

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[stevesmi]

I live in the UK, drugs are legal and available here.

these aren't drugs like smoking pot or even doing crack.. or drinking alcohol.. these are powerful hormones that have permanent ramifications on your HPTA. any idiot can get them in the USA too with or without a Rx. doesn't make it right just cause they are legal where you live. cigarettes are legal here, does that mean its okay for me to smoke 3 packs a day?

Don't get me wrong I entirely understand where you're coming from but, from my standpoint surely if I was to do this ONE cycle, finish PCT, I don't see how doing this could ruin my body? Bodies recover, that's what they do...

if you want to do 1 cycle then you are wasting your time.. there are guys on here who have done a dozen cycles and still aren't where they want to be.. I have done like 15 cycles or more and I am no where close to being where I want to be.. what makes you think 1 cycle is gonna get you there?

Even if I was to do this cycle when I'm in my 20's wouldn't it still mess up my hormones for life?

wrong.. at your age your body is going through changes and this isn't the time to screw around with your hormones

You hear about people that do no PCT and are absolutely fine!

wrong again. if you don't do pct you will lose most of your gains, pct is as important as the cycle itself. people who claim they don't pct are guys who just stay on year round, nobody who actually cycles on and off correctly will ever say to not pct.

Arnold (noob reply) apparently started at 15/16 and I'm sure others have?

you will never be Arnold.. nobody will. you can only be YOURSELF. stop trying to copy what other people did. there are millions who did what he did who never sniffed a regional NPC trophy, much less Mr Olympia.

I'm not saying I'm going to take drugs and become the next Arnie, but god damn it gives me a better shot at it?
you are only 17.. Arnold was 28 or so when he first won Mr olympia and won it last at 33, and today he wouldn't sniff it the way bodybuilding is today... with insulin and GH being introduced the average Mr. Olympia is in their late 30's. and I bet it will be into the 40's in another 10 years at this rate. you have a solid 20 more years before you can start dreaming.. you have been lifting what 2 or 3 years? you've got 20 more to go... you are strong for a 17 year old but your stats suck if you want to be a bodybuilder.. how do you know you have the genetics to bodybuild in the first place if you don't train to bodybuild?

in bold and there is no fucking way at 6 foot 205 pounds at 13% body fat with your lifts you have even sniffed your genetic potential. I weigh what you weigh and I bench 400+ and I deadlift 500+ for reps. you are well on your way to being talented at powerlifting, but you have a long way to go and have a lot of upside naturally. the difference is I have been lifting for almost 20 years, you have been lifting for a couple years. I didn't touch steroids until I had been lifting 13 years, and I had no desire to take steroids until I really felt like I was 100% commited, mature, could afford it, and had put in the years naturally first.

your problem is you have no patience and want to take short cuts and there is no such thing as a short cut!!

 

[yammyVR46]

I am literally born to bodybuild. I have 17 inch arms, a 27 inch waist with a 45 inch chest! My legs are over 26 inches (although I am 13%BF). I have a large sweep from my lats to my waist, I train to look like a bodybuilder, and I got this strong from the 10-12 rep range (sounding arrogant, sorry). Arnold was an IFBB Pro in his early 20's, he ONLY got that big from using drugs at a young age! It gave him time to work on his proportions and symmetry. I have read threads upon threads of guys saying they use no PCT, they didnt use PCT back in the day either? (I will be using PCT, if I continue with it)

So are you saying Arnold took shortcuts too? Because he started at 15/16?
Has anybody actually done a cycle at 16 and come away fine? Or is all this "It'll ruin your hormones" just theory and guess work?

 

[stevesmi]

^^ okay dude you obviously know more than everyone else on here and aren't gonna listen

typical stupid teenage behavior. you haven't even busted your first nut yet but you are already ready to use hormones

13% body fat for a 17 year old is very high. you couldn't even win a teenage bodybuilding contest with your current stats.. in fact you would get laughed off stage, but you want to bodybuild with men? I'm not being a prick but you have zero clue what you are talking about

and your lifts aren't strong for a 205 pound 6 foot person. maybe for a kid yes, but you would get destroyed in a powerlifting contest.. hell I bench 400+ and I would get destroyed

what i'm saying is you aren't ready for steroids period. even if you weren't even 17 and you were 25 you wouldn't be ready either with your stats.

 

[HitNItHard]

Dude... not only is Steve right... he's beyond right. If you ate legit about this, you will listen. Then you will pm him and say sorry, then ask what the best next step is for you. You will then see what real gains are like with your current hormones.. you don't need gear at your age. I'm 6'0. 205, and I'm lifting just below steve. And I am years from my goals... meaning if you start "just one, and only one" you are going to pin for the rest of your days and regret it. Don't do it man. Eat eat eat... lift lift lift. Results=motivation. Motivation=results...

 

[yammyVR46]

This was a few months back...I'm confident I'm meant to bodybuild.. :/

 

[yammyVR46]

Going to post that I will NOT being doing any cycles until I have matured. Just being plain ignorant, and I am sorry. But if you would look at the link I shared you can see that I have made some gains and even at my age could be considered a bodybuilder (maybe)

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

You look better than 99% of 17 year olds in the world, when are you turning 18?

Looking at your pictures now, it reinforces the fact that you can make amazing gains naturally without steroids. Your genetics are great.

 

[Shrine1]

You look better than 99% of 17 year olds in the world, when are you turning 18?

Looking at your pictures now, it reinforces the fact that you can make amazing gains naturally without steroids. Your genetics are great.

hell yeah.. looking like that at your age just shows you were meant to grow. keep it natural kidd. you will be able to accomplish everything and more if you train, sleep and eat (correctly)

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[mikkeltaylor]

Hey mate, whilst I don't have the experience of these guys I'm sure they are giving you advice with the best intentions.

You already look great at your age , and I can just see you continuing to grow without aas. I wish I hadn't waited till my 30s to start lifting!

Out of interest have you competed yet? I'm not sure what age they start over here anyway. I reckon you would be wise to hold off until you've a few comps out the way and used to the whole bulk/cut/prep cycle and what you find works for you.

The experience will def help you decide if this is what u want to do with your future over something else. Along the way you may find a coach/sponsor who is willing to help you. Take it to the next level...



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[stevesmi]

This was a few months back...I'm confident I'm meant to bodybuild.. :/

you probably aren't 13% body fat. you are probably more like 10%.

grab a spray tan and oil up and you would look great assuming your legs are built up.

but as I told you in PM, you got a good thing going.. you remind me a lot of me when I was your age but I was more like 5% body fat, but I loved posing in front of the mirror. I didn't touch hormones, hell I didn't even touch supplements. the next few years will be a challenge.. you will have girl issues, family issues, career issues, education issues, money issues. lifting won't be your #1 priority when that shit comes up. once you weather those storms and stabilize your life then you will be ready to get serious and start juicing.

as WPC said this pic re-inforces that you don't need steroids.. you are making amazing progress. the great bodybuilders started LIFTING in their teens which is the #1 thing. you don't have to juice at that age.. but you definitely should lift

also you aren't aware of this I am a weightlifting judge and I also coached kids your age for 3 years in high school. so I know the way you little fucks think (lol). if I found out anyone was using hormones they were kicked off the team. oddly enough my team still whips up on other schools whose kids do juice because we work hard year round in the weight room.. the KEY is quality time spent building a base... avoiding shitty foods is important obviously but at your age you can get away with a lot more than someone in their 30's on diet.. but the #1 thing is the hours you log in .. this will pay major dividends later in life and make it much easier to build muscle.. muscle memory is very real.

 

[yammyVR46]

Btw I'm 16 not 17

 

[markshark]

I know what to expect when I'm about to establish I'm soon to be 17 and will start my first cycle at 17. I will be taking the common first cycle of test for 10 weeks and dbol to for the first 3-4 weeks as a kickstart. PCT of Clomid and Nolva. I am 16 years old, 6ft tall, 205lbs at approx 13% bodyfat. Before you jump to conclusions I will be gaining as much knowledge I can get before I pin, and will be starting whether I have your approval or not. I have been reading other logs/threads but just wanted some input before I start in the next few months or so. For example; has anybody done cycles/gear at 17?

Lifting stats are as follows:
Bench: 275
Squat: 315
Deadlift: 420

I am 100% committed to bodybuilding and the lifestyle, I train old-school and heavy. I prep my meals daily and I am absolutely sure I want to continue bodybuilding for the rest of my life.

I wouldn't touch the shit if I were a teenager. You might not really want to hear it but you have plenty of natural gains to be had for a few years. Your test is high as ever right now. Take advantage of gaining as much as you can now and just eat eat eat.

 

[markshark]

because you aren't a man yet.. you are still a kid.

you do not fully mature till your 20's. if you juice now you will permanently fuck up your hormones for life. why don't you read some guys who are now in their 20's who have T levels under 200 cause they ran hormones young.

that's just the HPTA angle.

I'm not even gonna get into the financial impact, the responsibility impact. fuck you are still in high school. finish your education

yeah you have made some good gains naturally, so why mess with hormones and possibly set yourself back?

And this ^^^. Seriously. I'm 31 and started gear at 20. Now my t is low as fuck. You don't think you'll get psychologically addicted to the shit but you will once you see what it does and you'll seriously regret it later. Don't fuck yourself up. I was an ssm at gnc and one of my employees was 19 and he loved it so much that he naively did 4 ridiculous cycles in a little over a year and was hospitalized with fat deposits all around his heart

 

[sungirl]

Nice share..........

 

[brazilbeast]

And this ^^^. Seriously. I'm 31 and started gear at 20. Now my t is low as fuck. You don't think you'll get psychologically addicted to the shit but you will once you see what it does and you'll seriously regret it later. Don't fuck yourself up. I was an ssm at gnc and one of my employees was 19 and he loved it so much that he naively did 4 ridiculous cycles in a little over a year and was hospitalized with fat deposits all around his heart

That's some scary shit. Listen to these guys TS, it will be the best thing you ever did.

 

[rohanum]

Everything you said was cringe worthy to me untill i saw your picture.. Wtf thats amazing for 16 years old . You have got potential , if you seriously want it bad then start juicing after 21.. Tbh your hormones could get fucked regardless of age but it is more so likely to happen when you are in your teens cause your endocrine system hasnt mature yet. Also, if you start juicing, you will have the frame of a 16 year for the rest of your life , which just so happens to be a really big turn off in bodybuilding. Im not sure where you want to go with this but if you wanna be anywhere near the top then you need to have a good frame ( wide shoulders etc).

 

[playa@1]

I did a few 6 week cycles when I was 19. Hell, all those obsessed were doing a little something at my gym, but hey, it was the 80's. My guess is your mates are doing gear, and it's wetting your appetite for more.

Had permanent TRT going at age 45 (past 4 years). Not sure if playing with juice at an early age had something to do with it, but just sayin'.

It's easy to have your head run faster than your body my man, been there done that. You got a killer body. Listen to the bros. I know it's not the answers you been hoping, but part of this game is patience. Bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint. Keep up the good work!

 

[broscience]

dude you have a great foundation and your a genetic freak. At 16 and you look like that just imagine what you'll look like at 21!? Honestly just train hard and don't think about AAS until then. you remind me of a kid i train that's your age and he also is this genetically gifted kid. Lifts are just the same but he looks big as shit cause he is only 5'4. he asked me bout steroids and you know what i did? i slapped the shit out of him. (i literally slapped him) i told him not to think about it cause unlike the rest of the world who isn't genetically gifted he can make huge strides with just a tweek in training regiments and diet.

I totally understand that you want to grow more and want to quicken the results, but if you do that then think about your body and the effect it will have on your future? Health is the most important thing and you should try to understand that. As much as all of us think that you taking AAS might be alright.....in the end it will very harmful to you and thats why we think u should reconsider.

the most important thing is health lil bro....you should try to think about the long term effects it will have on your body if you were to start now. listen to the people here cause they are trying to help and not hinder. you'll thank us later im sure of it.

 

[misteruddin]

I'm 17 and I am on now test tren mast winny and var. Just do it.


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[wootoom]

I'm 17 and I am on now test tren mast winny and var. Just do it.


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Shut up troll. Bye bye.

 

[wootoom]

Lol I'm not it's true


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Great, enjoy not being here.

 

[misteruddin]

Great, enjoy not being here.

Haters gonna hate [emoji5]️[emoji4]


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[stevesmi]

Haters gonna hate [emoji5]️[emoji4]


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you are the same clown who posted they had low test since 12.

you didn't even grow a single chest hair yet but you have low test... you fucking retard, clowns like you are why its illegal for responsible people to use steroids.

 

[gymrat827]

Btw I'm 16 not 17

dude you hold out 2 more years and ill personally hold your hand threw all of it. literally, you can email me 5 times a day....................And ill respond 5 times a day.

you have lots of potential, you need to work natty for a bit longer and than you ll be ready to blow up.

i fuct around too young, had no one for advice, have a tiny bit of gyno and literally put on weight when on cycle and lost 90% in pct, was on.....than pct, than back on again.

Not saying this is you, but live life a lil longer, get more experienced (in life) and the BB world........and come back to this cycle.


read about growth plates in teens. once yours close, your ready to cycle.........If you begin before they close you may not be as tall as you could be.