routine - experienced BB's opinions please!!!

[enigma4dub]

Strength training does have place on bodybuilding routine! Unless you realize that you will never reach your full POTENTIAL! As long as you periodize your training, by including hypertrophy routines and strength routines you will be on the right track for maximum achievements. Oh and calorie isn't just a calorie...

im not sure why he went on, all calories are not the same rant. i never said a doughnut was the same as a steak. lol. if anyone knew how to search i made the same argument with anthrax invasion 2 years ago he said a coloric surplus of donuts was all good lol. look to grow you have to eat more than you burn. and yeah 7000 calories of perfect macros would be ideal. thats a lot of tuna oatmeal, and chicken breasts lol

 

[timtim]

im not sure why he went on, all calories are not the same rant. i never said a doughnut was the same as a steak. lol. if anyone knew how to search i made the same argument with anthrax invasion 2 years ago he said a coloric surplus of donuts was all good lol. look to grow you have to eat more than you burn. and yeah 7000 calories of perfect macros would be ideal. thats a lot of tuna oatmeal, and chicken breasts lol

you said calories in versus calories out. that isnt true on face value. i can only respond to what you write and what you wrote wasnt correct.

the log you showed me was a good one. the guy is big but doesnt look like a bber. i dont like size for the sake of size. it doesnt look good to me but that guy would be huge with or without training. hes gentically a big guy. personally, i would take a shredded down build any day over a big for bigs sake build. he doesnt have a bbers physique at all. hes a monster who likes to lift big weights. there is a difference. again, if that is your goal go for it. it doesnt create a bbers physique though.

 

[enigma4dub]

you said calories in versus calories out. that isnt true on face value. i can only respond to what you write and what you wrote wasnt correct.

look it wasnt to get into a detailed discussion on nutrition. thermodynamics is the underlying truth in weight gain. and without eating more than you burn you cant put on lean muscle mass or fat. i didnt think i needed to specify where the calories came from.

 

[timtim]

look it wasnt to get into a detailed discussion on nutrition. thermodynamics is the underlying truth in weight gain. and without eating more than you burn you cant put on lean muscle mass or fat. i didnt think i needed to specify where the calories came from.

gotcha.

 

[enigma4dub]

the log you showed me was a good one. the guy is big but doesnt look like a bber. i dont like size for the sake of size. it doesnt look good to me but that guy would be huge with or without training. hes gentically a big guy. personally, i would take a shredded down build any day over a big for bigs sake build. he doesnt have a bbers physique at all. hes a monster who likes to lift big weights. there is a difference. again, if that is your goal go for it. it doesnt create a bbers physique though.

you should see him @ 225. thats like the comparison of an off season build hes like 260 in that avi

ronnie and all those guys are monsters. and whether you are striving for that or not. thats what the top guys look like. freaks.

do you think you can tell how i train based on my current physique? heres some pics i put in the picture forum. its updated scroll through the whole thread.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...ry/couple-pics-feeling-skinny-fat-603915.html

 

[timtim]

you should see him @ 225. thats like the comparison of an off season build hes like 260 in that avi

ronnie and all those guys are monsters. and whether you are striving for that or not. thats what the top guys look like. freaks.

do you think you can tell how i train based on my current physique? heres some pics i put in the picture forum. its updated scroll through the whole thread.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...ry/couple-pics-feeling-skinny-fat-603915.html

you look real good. i think you would be able to bring out some areas with different training. you look solid. good work.

heres an honest critique:

shoulders need to be up in the front head more and out on the lateral and rear
chest looks good, upper pecs need to come in more
arms are good. seperation in the brachialis and tricep would work
back needs a few tweaks: wider and thicker but you have good detail, traps need to come in more

these are areas i definately could see you easily bringing up by using different training methods. i dont see 5x5 bringing up the lateral and rear delts. upper pecs would be mind muscle connection to target the muscle contraction. this is what i am talking about with tut and hypertrophy. you would definately benefit.

real solid work. are you natural?

 

[enigma4dub]

you look real good. i think you would be able to bring out some areas with different training. you look solid. good work.

heres an honest critique:

shoulders need to be up in the front head more and out on the lateral and rear
chest looks good, upper pecs need to come in more
arms are good. seperation in the brachialis and tricep would work
back needs a few tweaks: wider and thicker but you have good detail, traps need to come in more

these are areas i definately could see you easily bringing up by using different training methods. i dont see 5x5 bringing up the lateral and rear delts. upper pecs would be mind muscle connection to target the muscle contraction. this is what i am talking about with tut and hypertrophy. you would definately benefit.

real solid work. are you natural?

thank you for your critique. yes ive always been natural. i think all of the areas you mentioned will be more prominent once im back training heavy again
i was hurt for a while and ive been in a huge caloric deficit. leaning out. im gonna post my journal soon and some after pics.

 

[timtim]

thank you for your critique. yes ive always been natural. i think all of the areas you mentioned will be more prominent once im back training heavy again
i was hurt for a while and ive been in a huge caloric deficit. leaning out. im gonna post my journal soon and some after pics.

great job. keep up the good work.

do you focus on the the omega 3 and 6 while in a deficit? it makes a big difference in fat mobilization. i use the fish oils for 3 and coconut or safflower oil for the 6. i get a 1 to 3, 1 to 4 ratio, add in alittle olive oil for the omega 9, and am able to stay pumped and hard on a carb cycle diet which has my carbs as low as 50 a day 4 days a week.

 

[SaiBoT]

im not sure why he went on, all calories are not the same rant. i never said a doughnut was the same as a steak. lol. if anyone knew how to search i made the same argument with anthrax invasion 2 years ago he said a coloric surplus of donuts was all good lol. look to grow you have to eat more than you burn. and yeah 7000 calories of perfect macros would be ideal. thats a lot of tuna oatmeal, and chicken breasts lol

Lol! By the way you look good on the pics. I think if you improved a little on you back width it wouldn't harm you. You know a good lat spread would give the X look. Keep up!

 

[OneBreath]

My quads are more slow twitch, and respond to high reps, they have really come out since I have been cycling to work - 14 miles each way.

Damn, you're a badass. And you're saying f-off to the oil companies. Stick it to the man!