not soog good calories better than none at all...?

[quadkilla31]

That's crazy. There is no way you need that many calories. That's just insane. I think you need to get yourself a new nutritionalist and also like Radar said get checked for a tapeworm.

 

[iHulk]

Not to harp on the 10K cals like everyone else ..but holy crap dude....!! that is a ton.

In any case it takes 1 minute to make a protien shake. The 53g myoplex shakes are approx 300 cals.. add 3 of them to your daily intake... that will give you roughly 900 extra clean cals.

 

[The Terminator]

I have a similar metabolism and THE ONLY WAY I can get ENOUGH calories is to eat DIRTY ...NO WAY IN HELL are you going to be able to eat 10k CLEAN calories day after day...Ther's just NO WAY...

But if you are getting as high as 11% bf then I DONT think your metabolism is as fast as you think it is...
(or maybe you AARENT eating as many calories as you 'think' you are...)

 

[x_con]

what is better to get those extra calories up even though they may not ALL be healthy, or cut my body short and only get 9,000 but they are almost all clean?

I go through the same internal debate on almost a daily basis, there is only so much grilled chicken and brown rice that a person can eat. I dont need nearly as many calories as you but still have a tough time forcing down what I do need. I also get really sick of cooking, seems like I'm either preparing food or eating it or cleaning up from both. For me personally, If I'm trying to add weight, especially if I'm using AAS, I go ahead and do what I gotta do to prevent a calorie defficet. All the hard work you do in the kitchen and the gym, and all the money spent on AAS will be wasted if you remain calorie defficent while on cycle, if your trying to bulk. Take the fat now in order to get the muscle, we already suffer enough while cutting, enjoy yourself while you can.

 

[ScienceGeek]

But if you are getting as high as 11% bf then I DONT think your metabolism is as fast as you think it is...
(or maybe you AARENT eating as many calories as you 'think' you are...)

This sounds accurate.

 

[mts198]

if you just eat at subway you would have to eat over 20 12 inch subs
i think maybe you are over estimating the calories in food? to gain one pound of anything (fat/ muscle) you need an extra 3500 calories and i dont recommend gaining that in one day so if you want to gain 15 pounds in a month (which i think is a good goal) you would need 1750 cals a day more than your BMR and what you expell from activity and what not... if you are say 200 pounds you need about 3000 cals a day plus 1750 equals

4750 cals a day

Now this is just a rough estimate off the top of my head, but it is more accurate than 10000 cals a day.

 

[pursuit]

Eat protein shakes more then dude, they are extremely easy to prepare, easy to get down and can taste rather nice too.

Pizza sucks, better to eat nothing imo

 

[Its All Genetics]

im that crazy that i do sit down and look at every meal eat and plan out my cals, my last bulking diet i took in about 8,000 cals a day, i put on 15 pound in 2 months. now granted they werent all clean. so this time i wanted to up them more and keep them cleaner. I have a lawn business and a car detailing biz so i am alaways active and even just my resting metabolism is high, its been that way since i was a little kid.

also sometimes i get flammed for having protein shakes to get an extra 1,000 cals rather than eating a meal to get the 1,000. like x con said, i feel like im always eating or coooking and damn do i always feel like im hungry

 

[van_wilder]

I go through the same internal debate on almost a daily basis, there is only so much grilled chicken and brown rice that a person can eat. I dont need nearly as many calories as you but still have a tough time forcing down what I do need. I also get really sick of cooking, seems like I'm either preparing food or eating it or cleaning up from both. For me personally, If I'm trying to add weight, especially if I'm using AAS, I go ahead and do what I gotta do to prevent a calorie defficet. All the hard work you do in the kitchen and the gym, and all the money spent on AAS will be wasted if you remain calorie defficent while on cycle, if your trying to bulk. Take the fat now in order to get the muscle, we already suffer enough while cutting, enjoy yourself while you can.

YOU JUST DESCRIBED MY LIFE IN THAT FIRST SENTENCE! Although I am getting smarter... if you're gonna cook... cook for at least 2 days worth of food.. but the sink always seems to be FULL of empty tupperware and dishes at my house... it's endless! and the whole time i'm thinking to myself that eating this much food has got to be pretty taxing on my digestive system! whatever it takes i guess!
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[van_wilder]

im that crazy that i do sit down and look at every meal eat and plan out my cals, my last bulking diet i took in about 8,000 cals a day, i put on 15 pound in 2 months. now granted they werent all clean. so this time i wanted to up them more and keep them cleaner. I have a lawn business and a car detailing biz so i am alaways active and even just my resting metabolism is high, its been that way since i was a little kid.

also sometimes i get flammed for having protein shakes to get an extra 1,000 cals rather than eating a meal to get the 1,000. like x con said, i feel like im always eating or coooking and damn do i always feel like im hungry

I'm also under the impression that you may be overestimating the amount that you're eating.... taking in 6-7k makes me walk around feeling like on the verge of crapping and puking at the same time! I couldn't even imagine trying to take in another 3-4k of clean foods! If you're taking in 10k, unless you never leave the table, at least 3-4k must be from shakes. Why don't you list out your diet for us to see?
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