My Wife is Wanting to Try T3 - Good or Bad Idea Ladies?

[espanola]

I've tried cytomel and I can honestly say that I will never again play with my thyroid. Clen is not so bad. Infact, I got leaner with clen then I did with cytomel and the side effects were close to nothing.

 

[Dingo12]

She may not have 'pooped' much before she dieted because she wasn't eating the right kind of foods back then, i.e. wholegrains and veggies etc.

Not eating makes this worse especially because the bowel has to fill up again before regular pooping commences.

Starving is a big no-no, metabolism dives completely then when you do eat you have real problems, T3 will make the whole situation even worse.

So what's her diet like now? A few meals a day is not enough!

 

[curling]

Man she is still not eating enough. This morning she had some grapes and a half of cantelope. She maybe eats two meals a day.

I have to be honest with you guys. I know that it is not good what she is doing. But man she is looking so FINE to me. She was a 148 before and I had a hard time getting aroused by looking at her. And now she weighs 114 and she is so little and petite I am just all over her(man I'm getting horny just thinking about her). She can wear mini skirts, sundresses(which I love) and she looks GREAT in them. I have been with her since she was 16 and I was 18 years old. And now almost 19 years later she looks like she is a 17 ir 18 year old again and I feel like we are on our "honeymoon" again and we are both getting alot of honey if you know what I mean.

So, here is my dilema, I guess I like her real skinny. I'm sorry I warped and shallow but I do. But I also don't want her to get malnurished because of it. What can she eat to stay the way she is that is healthy and yet not fattening? And how should she eat it? She does an hour of cardio a day and works out with me 4 or 5 nights a week in the gym. She is 5.5 and weighs 114.

 

[Galen]

Supplementing with T3 is basically inducing hyperthyroidism which presents a striking clinical picture. The increase in metabolic rate leads to weight loss, which is characteristically accompanied by increased intake of food. Excessive generation of heat causes discomfort in warm environments, fever if the condition is severe, excessive sweating, thirst, and increased alveolar (lung) ventilation. Muscle weakness and atrophy and even osteoporosis can result from increased protein degradation. The increase in Beta adrenergic responsivity is manifested by tremor, nervousness, insomnia, and an anxious stare. The heart rate is rapid, and a high cardiac output form of heart failure can occur in extreme cases.
With your wife's sparse eating habits the catabolism promoted by T3 could be very unpleasant. IMHO she needs to get some sound dieting advice, keep up with the ECA stack and then look into some anavar, but deep six the T3 idea. Galen

 

[curling]

Thanks Galen,

Now what about the T3 for me. I eat 5 to 6 meals a day workout all the time and I am on 750mg of test/wk right now. I want to start cutting up. Would it hurt to add some T3(I know how to taper it) with some clen and winny? I don't want to be too tired all the time though. I just have a gut to lose and some excess water weight around my shoulders to cut up

Have you ever tried T3 and if yes, how did it work for you?

 

[Dingo12]

If all she is eating is a little fruit she will lose muscle mass which means a real slow down on her metabolism and the likelyhood of her putting all the weight backon will increase. Her hormones and fertility will suffer which could lead to osteoporosis. At her current weight she is on the borderline of being underweight. The situation you describe is EXACTLY what happened to me 8 years ago and set of an eating disorder which I still carry with me. My boyfriend at the time liked me losing weight ( I lost a similar amount to your partner ) and I was convinced that if I began eating again I would put on weight and no longer be attractive to him. I even started thinking that the more weight I lost, the more attractive I became. Eventually I would get so starved that I would eat everything in sight then feel guilty and either starve or purge. I developed bulimia and it has ruled my life ever since. It has affected my relationships, career and finances extensively.

I now keep it fairly well under control and am 145 lbs, 5'4" and 18% bf. OK this sounds big but I have got this heavy due to bbing. I go out every week in hotpants and cropped tops and women much smaller come up to me and compliment me on how good I look. I have so much more energy and sex drive now, which I was lacking when restricting my food intake.

Does your partner not get really tired? I used to and then my libido dropped completely.

What she needs to do now is EAT to maintain her bodyweight which means approx. 1800-2000 kcals per day with plenty of protein to maintain muscle mass.

Oh, by the way as a result of staying at a weight similar to your partners for several years I developed the beginnings of oesteoporosis.

 

[FitFossil]

Curling,

In your first post you wrote "She is really serious this time of getting a hard body". Today you said "Man she is still not eating enough. This morning she had some grapes and a half of cantelope. She maybe eats two meals a day."

Is she eating more or less now than when she was dropping weight? If she's eating more, then at least that's a good sign she's making an effort. After nearly starving for 2 months, it will be a physical and psychological adjustment trying to eat more. She still needs to work on eating small meals more frequently and getting a balance of protein, carbs, and fat at each meal.

It is possible for her to maintain her current size IF she replaces whatever body fat she has (I'm sure there's not much) with muscle. That's what will give her a hard body. She's got to understand that having muscle is what will raise her metabolism, but she's got to eat more to get some muscle. She might feel like she's getting bigger at first, but if she sticks to a good diet and keeps working out, she WILL get leaner and harder in the end.

If she's eating less, then there's no way she's EVER going to get a hard body (been there, done that!). A soft skinny body yes, but not a hard body. A meal of fruit won't cut it. Sure, it's low fat, but to the body, it's just sugar. For a hard body she needs muscle, and for muscle she must get sufficient protein. They're lots of threads on here about good diet.

I for one like Laura Crevalle's cookbooks. I figure a pro bodybuilder like Laura knows a few things about lean cooking. The recipes are easy, very tasty, and healthy. As a former anorexic, I am not "afraid" to eat the recipes in this book. http://www.clubcreavalle.com/books.html

 

[cockdezl]

"Bears go for months without pooping. Not trying to be funny here, but in the past I've been on what I called a regulated diet where I didn't poop for at least a week. The trick is to only eat digestible stuff. Mainly I was living out of a blender and juicer. Very limited caloric intake also and lots of ECA to keep from burning up the muscle. Problem is that when I did poop it was hard as a rock. And it can cause real bad hemorroids."

Low residue diets are not good for the intestines, due to the long transit time, increased intestinal pressure required for moving it along the path, and as you stated the potential for hemorrhoids.

"Anyway I got very good results from it. Although for most of the time I do include nondigestible fiber in my diet I think the fiber thing is overrated."

Fiber is underrated and underused. Intestinal lining thrives off of short-chain volatile fatty acids that are produced by the bacterial metabolism of fibers.

"Can you imagine humans before the advent of farming sitting out in some wheatfield picking the chaff off of every little kernal for their fiber."

No, I can't imagine this, since wheatfields are the product of farming. So if you are talking before pre-farming days, then there would be very little in terms of wheatfields. Pre-farming man most likely ate berries, fruits, tubers and whatever he found that did not kill him, but very little corn, oats, wheat, etc.

"The same kind of applies to water. We have this built in control mechanism that tells us when to drink. It's called thirst."

Thirst is like the oil light in your car. When it comes on, it is often times too late. Don't worry about your thirst mechanism, drink alot of fluids to dilute the toxins in your urinary tract.

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"Anyway I guess what I'm trying to say here is don't give too much credence to everything you read or hear in the media. Consider the source. Everybody is pushing a product to enhance their financial well-being.
Do you think they really care about you, the consumer?
Use your own common sense. "

Don't use common sense, use education and reasoning. Common people use common sense and they tend to be stupid.

"So here's the link on Bears. Learn to recyle (some) of your protein internally. Saves money."

I don't like to recycle my old proteins, I want some of them new fangled proteins. Come to think of it, bears are a good source of protein...Where's my gun?

 

[Magda]

I am so very sorry but this has to be a flame.

"I have to be honest with you guys. I know that it is not good what she is doing. But man she is looking so FINE to me. She was a 148 before and I had a hard time getting aroused by looking at her. And now she weighs 114 and she is so little and petite I am just all over her(man I'm getting horny just thinking about her)."

You ass! That is the exact same thing that I did to get down small and petite and be the sweet little southern bell that my husband wanted. I wasnt that big before, just muscular, perhaps a little rought around the edges. I lost most of the muscle, especially in my butt and now 8 years later I am having to start all over again. I had a hard time carrying my child because the lower back muscles were not very strong and now to this day I still have spasms. If you really loved her you would care a hell of a lot more about her health than just what she looked like. In a way, I feel sorry for her because it sounds like one of her underlying problems is that she wants to do this for you. I know she will say she wants to do it for herself but a big problem with women today is what they think they look like to others instead of just looking at their bodies and saying "What can I do to make my body stronger, healthier" not just wanting to get in that size 4 miniskirt. I know! I have been there, I have thought that way and I have been 114. And yes I was proud when I saw that look of pride on my husbands face. But I tell you now life is a whole lot better now that my NEW husband is just as turned on with the fact that I have a 3.89 grade point average in biochemistry than he is with my body, and that is alot! Most men love to compete and they want their bodies, skills, techniques to be better than the next guys but they do it for themselves! That is why most men don't have eating disorder.

I have to stop typing now because I am really pissed. I hope you can sort through the rude comments I made and pick out really valid important points and I can tell you deep down, you wife knows how you really feel about her when she has a little extra weight on her.

 

[MS]

Ummmmm BUMP. Don't know how I missed this one before.......