Good Mornings Weights

[GRIMMER]

A lot of it also depends on how clean your form is when doing them. The more you use your legs the more weight you can move. With good form y Gm is 335 for a double and my raw sqaut is about 450 and raw dead about 500 of these done a few months ago.

Jay , i just started doing the suspended with chains and bands. I think that they are so much better than without bands/chains because of the increase in weihgt at the top. It really makes yoiu work throught the whole range of motion not just getting the bar moving. My best plain suspended is 315 a little below back parrallel. I think you should be able to almost touch your toes form a standing position and that is about where the bar should start. I think varying the hight as with any movement can be a good idea. You and jimmy will have two different heights to work at because he is like 6'2". I would say one week use yours and the next week use his.

 

[b fold the truth]

OK...now I feel like a weakling.

B True

 

[Deciever]

lol how do you think i feel b fold?? People are like tripling my good am weight

 

[powerlifterjay]

Grimmer i noticed when you came to train with us that my hams and glutes were weak in this movement. I have been reverse hypering since then twice a week and have made a huge jump in weight. I feel stronger on the back side. Last nights good mornings were lower then you mentioned. I reached down like i was grabbing a bar to pull and from the very bottom is were the bar was. My good AM's were done with very little leg movemnt. Of course there was some i went low as hell below parallel, and i can tell you knwo that the chains are the shit! I did them off the pins two weeks ago and di 455 for 3 a little higher. Difference is i was resetting before i ever did the first one. Groove wise. With chains it falls into your natural body movement. Awesome. I knwo i can do more. I will try to hit a 545 in a few weeks. The first one is a bitch! We just suspended them in the chains once the weight was lifted the chains added nothing. It was free weight. Liek off pins except it would swing to fit your movement off the intiial start. I like them. New favorite!

 

[IrishPower]

misc responses

pljay: i have been playing around alot with stances and heights. at 42.5, my back is roughly at an equivalent angle as to when i do the beginning of a conventional deadlift.

others: on a max effort good morning, i use a LOT of legs when i get to my heavy single. but again, i use a lot of legs when i deadlift. i don't think the point is to ISOLATE your lower back. its to train the other movements.

Its pretty simple for me. I do wide good mornings and i thrash my hips and low back. i do narrow good mornings and i thrash my hams and low back.

when i want to get a really good pump, i drop the weight, keep my legs straigher and add bands. these are fun. at the 10th rep you wonder if your spine is going to snap.

i prefer good mornings to deadlifts because they dont put the same kind of strain on my bicep tendons.

another advantage of doing good mornings is that your body can start to 'feel' heavy weight before you really have to do it in a full squat. i did an 805 wide stance good morning which sort of looked like a hip shrug, and i thought it was kind of sissyish, but when i woke up the next day, my whole body was sore and it took 5 days to recover.

i have not pulled in awhile since my FUCKING oki bar hasnt arrived --- ARE YOU LISTENING RICKEY DALE???? 8 weeks after i ordered it. I am sick of dropping my u-shaped bar i stole from gold's gym before i left. (Actually they gave it to me as a reward for leaving).


Arioch: your pull is awesome. if i were you, i would do a lot more wide stance good mornings as your pull doesn't seem to be inhibited by a weak lower back and this will definitely boost your squat if you are a wide squatter.


anyway, i am hoping to crash 725 next week on a narrow stance with chains. i will post a video (unless of course i get squashed).

/irish

 

[GRIMMER]

Ya suspended off of chains is the shit and adding bands and chains is awesome. It lets you position the bar where it needs to be instead of yoi position ing yourself where you need to be. Personally i feel that form is not the biggest issue with the GM (other than safety). Put the weight on the bar and do wahtever it takes to get it back up. If a little or a lot of leg drive happens to come into play than so be it , its all about the strain anyway.

 

[Arioch]

I do not use much leg strength at all when doing good mornings, if you overlook the function of the hamstrings as hip extensors. My deadlift is all back, and it looks like shit. Fortunately I am not judged on form.

IIRC, I did a deadlift meet in college, and my weight was down to about 195. Pulled 600. I was regularly about 220 at the time. I had been training for seven years, at that point, I think, and even though I did no deadlifts, as my Olympic pulls always came up off the deck quick, I did a lot of good mornings, snatch and clean pulls, etc.

I feel the good morning helps my squat more than anything else, but then I use a lot of back when I squat. My squat is ugly too.

 

[Deciever]

hmmm do you do any lifts that are pretty?? still very impressive, dont be so hard on yourself.

 

[Arioch]

Yes, actually. The snatch. You could drop a plumb line down the path of the bar when I pull it, which is very rare. Also, my second pull has exploded in textbook form since day one.


My bench is actually a technical masterpiece, with me doing everything possible to shorten the stroke, and it travels in a very straight line as well. But then I have to do this.

Besides, I rather miss having a coach, so I have to be hard on myself. My wife is too nice.

 

[Deciever]

have you found that the olympic lifting you do has helped your squat and deadlift? If it does, i may incorporate it into my routine.