desparity between size and strength

[DOGGCRAPP]

Bigguns::Unless I tell someone that I workout, most people don't know it. But at 148 lbs, I've posted competition lifts (single ply gear) of 405 squat, 235 bench, and 435 deadlift. For me, strength does not necessarily equal size. I've also seen 97 pound girls squat and deadlift over 3x bodyweight.

Doggcrapp:: Ive seen amazing displays of strength too with people that dont eat enough or are staying in weight classes. That doesnt apply here--I can drop a 454 in a car with a supercharger on it but if I dont have any gas in the car Im not going too far or too fast am I? You take somebody who has great genetics (and other factors) for strength and put them on 2 + grams of protein a day and shore up any other holes in their diet and Ill show you someone who is gaining so fast it will make your head spin. If a powerlifter in the 220lb class is curbing back cals to stay in the 220lb class do you think he is going to get much larger? If he decides to compete at 275lbs he is going to blow up and its not going to be 55lbs of fat he puts on to get there. He will probaly put on 40lbs of muscle--15lbs of fat and his strength will go thru the roof. This is the biggest problem in these sports--people always think its their training and 98% of the time its diet, If your 180 but you train hardcore and like a psychotic madman but eat just enough to maintain 180lbs your going to stay a buck 80 with very little size increase.

 

[revexrevex]

Doggcrap: How about if you eat maintanence calories. Shouldn't you drop bodyfat, or atleast somehow improve body composition? Or do you think that by eating maintanence calories, or slightly below maintance calories, the body composition won't change even though there are strength increases?

 

[bigguns15]

Doggcrapp:: Ive seen amazing displays of strength too with people that dont eat enough or are staying in weight classes. That doesnt apply here--I can drop a 454 in a car with a supercharger on it but if I dont have any gas in the car Im not going too far or too fast am I? You take somebody who has great genetics (and other factors) for strength and put them on 2 + grams of protein a day and shore up any other holes in their diet and Ill show you someone who is gaining so fast it will make your head spin. If a powerlifter in the 220lb class is curbing back cals to stay in the 220lb class do you think he is going to get much larger? If he decides to compete at 275lbs he is going to blow up and its not going to be 55lbs of fat he puts on to get there. He will probaly put on 40lbs of muscle--15lbs of fat and his strength will go thru the roof. This is the biggest problem in these sports--people always think its their training and 98% of the time its diet, If your 180 but you train hardcore and like a psychotic madman but eat just enough to maintain 180lbs your going to stay a buck 80 with very little size increase.

The point of this thread was to ask how many 'not so big' people are out there that can put up some impressive numbers. I'm just saying that you can be incredibly strong and not look like it.
I understand how important diet is and if I wanted to bulk, I would. However, as a girl that's not my goal. My goal is to get as strong as possible staying at my size.

 

[pwr_machine]

If your 180 but you train hardcore and like a psychotic madman but eat just enough to maintain 180lbs your going to stay a buck 80 with very little size increase.

Duh!

 

[revexrevex]

Doggcrap, and another thing. Does the increased eating have to be done in parallel with the heavy training in order to increase in size? How about if I eat maintanance calories, but keep increasing in strength. Then one day I decide to eat more, will the mass catch up to the strength, or will those days of my strength increasing be wasted forever because I did not eat enough?

 

[IronLion]

Duh!

did anyone call?

 

[blinddeafmute]

I dont think many people realize you are a girl bigguns, or that you are a powerlifter.

I can see why with the numbers you put up.

DC,

Just a personal thanks for getting your program out there (especially without expecting people to pay for it). I've given it a shot and made very good gains. Thank you.

 

[Debaser]

In general, if you gain strength you will be gaining size. Your diet must be adequate for this to occur.

 

[Debaser]

I posted that before knowing there was even a page 2, and DC put about 2 more paragraphs into it haha

 

[pwr_machine]

Doggcrapp: and thats exactly what you should say to the 95% of the bodybuilders out there that dont look any different than they did 2 years prior--because as simple of a statement as it is they obviously havent figured it out yet

Let's continue to spread the word.