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Spatts, when you go for a 1 rep max like in the video, how do you warm up before going for it?
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Oh, that was a comp...I rarely test my 1RM in a full ROM on anything.
This particular day, I did 135 a few times, then I think 175, then around 225, then 275, etc...just 1 rep. Then my first attempt was 315. 2nd attempt was 375. 3rd attempt was 405.
I actually DID test this pull Saturday while in Tulsa training with the Oakie and Springfield Crews. I hadn't planned to, as it was speed day, but I got curious. I did 135 for 6, then 225 for 5, then 285 for 5, then 315 for 4 . . . I thought I was done, since those were speed pulls. I saw 415 on the bar and decided to go for it. Didn't budge. So I put on my belt and got it half way up. Perhaps if I hadn't just done my first day of circamax phase speed squats, and then speed pulls, I would've gotten it...who knows. I won't know until St Louis.
This particular day, I did 135 a few times, then I think 175, then around 225, then 275, etc...just 1 rep. Then my first attempt was 315. 2nd attempt was 375. 3rd attempt was 405.
I actually DID test this pull Saturday while in Tulsa training with the Oakie and Springfield Crews. I hadn't planned to, as it was speed day, but I got curious. I did 135 for 6, then 225 for 5, then 285 for 5, then 315 for 4 . . . I thought I was done, since those were speed pulls. I saw 415 on the bar and decided to go for it. Didn't budge. So I put on my belt and got it half way up. Perhaps if I hadn't just done my first day of circamax phase speed squats, and then speed pulls, I would've gotten it...who knows. I won't know until St Louis.
spatts said:I do a grip and rip pull becuase I feel like deads are all about speed. I get alot of reversal speed out of this...which is a term I think you can relate to well.
I know you've seen this vid, but this is the grip and rip pull (as opposed to getting down there and setting up first):
405lb Deadlift
VERY impressive CCJ...can't wait to see big numbers like this...
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My favorite part is the faint sound of "OH SHIT!" as I locked it out. I have no idea who said that, but it's very clear.
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Some key points:
You should pull your shoulders back, not let them slump forward.
DO NOT "grip and rip" on a deadlift. This is unneccessary. Quote from an article in hardgainer:
"Deadlift
Shoulder problems arise here when the bar is yanked from the floor. Not only is this hell on the lower back, but the muscles trying to hold your shoulder joint together, and the ones trying to stabilize it, take a beating too. You may be able to lift a bit more weight by jerking at it, but when you injure yourself you won’t be lifting anywhere near that weight for a long time.
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You should pull your shoulders back, not let them slump forward.
DO NOT "grip and rip" on a deadlift. This is unneccessary. Quote from an article in hardgainer:
"Deadlift
Shoulder problems arise here when the bar is yanked from the floor. Not only is this hell on the lower back, but the muscles trying to hold your shoulder joint together, and the ones trying to stabilize it, take a beating too. You may be able to lift a bit more weight by jerking at it, but when you injure yourself you won’t be lifting anywhere near that weight for a long time.
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Also it really is best for the bar to graze your legs the whole time, from your shins up to your quads.
You should not roll your shoulders back if powerlifting....talk about unnecessary. The whole point is to lock the weight out in the shortest ROM possible. Shrugging it back is a waste of time. If you're going for an upper back workout, shrrug away.
Chuck Vogelpohl and I would humbly tell the author of "an article in hardgainer" to piss off. You hurt your back when your core isn't tight enough and strong enough to support the movement. Also, I have shoulder issues, and have never once been bothered by the grip and rip. If you do it carelessly, yeah, prepare to sit out. You have to know what the hell you're doing. I can see where this might be more dangerous conventional, but sumo....not so much.
Chuck Vogelpohl and I would humbly tell the author of "an article in hardgainer" to piss off. You hurt your back when your core isn't tight enough and strong enough to support the movement. Also, I have shoulder issues, and have never once been bothered by the grip and rip. If you do it carelessly, yeah, prepare to sit out. You have to know what the hell you're doing. I can see where this might be more dangerous conventional, but sumo....not so much.
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kick ass there CCJ. how does the grip feel? you going switch it up and try various grips, like one forward, one backward, and the thumb underneath the fingers grip? keep it up mang.
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