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CARDIO is a WASTE of TIME and ENERGY!!!

I'll put one more quote in here...

"Resistance training is an anaerobic form of exercise. Despite some contentions that it can directly improve aerobic metabolism when performed alone, this has not been shown to be true except in individuals with low levels of fitness at the start of the program. In one study by Kraemer et. al. resistance training performed by itself was shown not to alter VO2max, despite a shorter-rest, bodybuilding-type component in the program. When a resistance training program is used in combination with aerobic endurance training, however, enhancements of aerobic metabolism have still been observed. This appears to be accomplished by enhancing mechanical efficiency and muscle force capabilities at VO2max."

From Essentials of Strenth Training and Conditioning, Baechle and Earle, Editors, 2nd Ed., (NSCA)
 
If weight lifting does not utilize glycogen, then why drink a post-workout carbohydrate drink to replenish glycogen stores? The ATP system is only available for so long...
 
SofaGeorge said:
I worked out at Gold's Venice for years and years... it was always interesting to me that I almost NEVER saw any pros doing cardio.

Seeing a pro on the treadmill was a huge rarity. Why?

Cause they got treadmills at home and do it in front of their tv. Watch the Ronnie video and you'll see him on the treadmill 2x a day for 30min each.


I used to also believe that cardio was a waste of time, but that's just an excuse for not doing it. I recently started cutting and this time I added 30min AM cardio and the difference is definitely there. Sure it's just another 3-400cals burned, but that's almost 2800cals/week EXTRA burned. Plus you feel great after doing it. It definitely makes a difference. Combine that with a good diet and you'll get shredded faster. Try it for 2 weeks and see for yourself.
 
I haven't seen anybody mention the time they do cardio. While on AS, for me, AM cardio keeps the bloat and sides to a min as well as keeping the fat down and energy up not even to mention a way better lipid profile. The AS keeps the catabolism to min and being in the AM burns max fat. I stay moderately paced at 133-140bpm. It's just a tool I use to help manage being a natty fat ass. Evening cardio does not do much for me other than dispose of unessary energy I could have otherwise cut out via diet.
 
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cadio can be done many different ways, weights, aerobics, basketball, ect. simply. when you do "aerobics" it first burns carbs, then burns muscle then fat. so if you loose muscle in the long run you will store more fat.
try doing your cardio with weghts?????????? you can still do 6-10 reps just limit the time to inbtwn sets to 30 sec. i used to train my clients 10yrs ago like this and it worked on both men and women. nelson goes into this better in his book and explains it.
 
Some quick points.

Aerobics burn carbs. Not fat. The "targeted heart rate" theory has been proven wrong. When subjected to long duration stress your body is more likely to burn protein before it burns fat

Having more muscle burns more fat. Aerobics break down muscle.

The amount of calories used is dependant on your condition. If you can easily run a mile, you aren't burning as many calories as the person who struggles to run a mile. So using "distance" as a gauge is ridiculous.

Sprinting is not aerobic. It's "anrobic."

Aerobics stop burning calories once you stop doing them. As soon as you eat, you just replaced the calories you burned. More muscle allows for calorie burning all day long.

Yes, adding 20 minutes of cardio will burn more calories. So will adding 20 minutes of weight training -- except that weight training will grow muscle, raise GH, improve glucose disposal, and increase strength. Aeorbics will do none of these things.
They are, however, great at wearing out cartlidge in the kness, ankles and lower back.

There isn't a single shread of proof that aerobics will lengthen life span. The only known fact is that EXERCISE will improve cardiac health. In case you haven't heard, weight training is exercise.

The average weight lost in a marathon is 4 pounds -- of which 3 pounds is water and about 10 ounces is muscle. That means you have to run 24 miles to lose a couple of ounces of fat. Now tell me how much fat you burn with 40 minutes on the treadmill!

Wake up folks. The body doesn't know if you're doing squats or jumping up and down on a box. It only knows survival. It isn't going to burn fat just because you want it to or just because SHAPE magazine says so.

Aerobics suck. Just say no.
 
nelson is a fool

unless you plan to do squats for 40 minutes straight and keep your heart rate elevated close to your maximum for the whole time weight training will not strengthen your heart like cardio does. it is duration and elevation of heart rate that counts. i guess nelson knows more than a cardiologist though. the heart is an important muscle dont forget to train it. cardio can lower your bp and increas your efficiancey at using oxygen. who cares what nelson thinks.
 
DepressiveJuice said:


no shit? i was always under the assumption that the pros did hours and hours of cardio. could it be their training (aside from diet and gear) that helps them lose the bf? some of them do claim to train twice a day, six times a week. although when they interview them they always say cardio is a must when cutting...dont they?


yep you are right cardio is a must to get in the 3% BF region and below. Plus when you are a competitve Bbuilder it s not jus about a nice set of abs..........shit I got a better set of abs year round. it s about a striated back , separated quads. shredded hammys . YOU DON T GET THOSE UNLESS YOU DO CARDIO PERIOD .I have a lot of videos ,ronnie dorian shawn ray chris cormier with the exception of dexter and darreem charles all did cardio
 
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