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CARDIO is a WASTE of TIME and ENERGY!!!

Themachine01 said:
your missing the point here. lets pretend I said 40 mins, how about that.

40 minutes is not necessary... nor is 20 minutes.

12 minutes would be sufficient... doing 30 seconds at a sprinting pace and 30 seconds at a jogging/slow pace... I've used this method with great results... losing fat and keep muscle ... in a rather fast amount of time.

And I'm not the only one... I first read this article by Shawn Phillips... explaining the whole process. 40 minutes of cardio, without the aid of anabolics would be to catabolic to muscles for my liking... HIIT would be much more suitable for both fat burning, cardiovascular conditioning, etc.

Shouldn't this be over in the training section? Would you want me to move it there for you?

C-ditty
 
LOL,after training for 20 years,I think I know what does and does not work for burning fat for me...Anybody who tries to tell me that I would burn fat faster training with weights(or even circuit training)does not have an iota of a clue what the hell they're talking about.That may work fine and dandy for a person with a normal BMR/insulin regulatory system,but it would be an absolute nightmare for someone like myself,and every other endormorph I have known.These things need to be taken into context,as one size does not fit all,not by a long stretch...Is weight training beneficial?Absolutely!Is it the end all solution for every body/metabolic type?Absolutely not.
 
Citruscide said:


Shouldn't this be over in the training section? Would you want me to move it there for you?

C-ditty


Id like to have it stay here, thanks. Only because I am trying to come to a conclusion on how I am going to cut up this season, and it will not be all natural.
 
Playing basketball for hours a day and a good diet made me 7-8% bodyfat once ...

Then came insulin ...

Now I am playing my basketball and going on a good diet again to reach that same bodyfat, maybe even lower, by summer time.

Yea cardio burns muscle too, but what are you gonna do about it? I hate cardio (although playing basketball or other sports can be fun) but it sure is a good way to burn fat. Works better than dnp for me, and I am not joking.

-sk
 
Themachine01 said:



Id like to have it stay here, thanks. Only because I am trying to come to a conclusion on how I am going to cut up this season, and it will not be all natural.

I thought you had a reason for posting it here... I'll leave it over here then. ;)

C-ditty
 
someone define what spatts said for us idiots

brickgirl, nelson- why does running hoard fat?
 
Themachine01 said:



Ive seen a shit load more pot bellied guys training in the gym for 2 hrs/day than on the track or bike. So if there is someone who is at 20% bf looking to drop down to 6% bf, no cardio is needed, just a strict diet and weight training, i have trouble believing this.

If you take 2 guys, both at 20%, looking to get to around 6% bf, one has strict diet and only does weight training, the other strict diet, weight training and 20 mins cardio per day. Same drugs involved, what ever they may be. Explain to me how the guy not doing cardio will reach his goal faster. Please.


thought i would throw this back in here, I would really like for someone to answer this for me.
 
spatts said:
You're right, 20 minutes isn't long enough to get into the fat burning stage, especially since sprinting, like lifting, is fueled by glycogen...hence the musculature. Fortunately, sprinting elevates the metabolism MUCH longer than "cardio," so think of it as 40 mins for the price of 20.

...and you get to keep the muscle, and the efficient heart.


Isn't it all about burning calories? What does it matter how long you do it???

-sk
 
spatts said:
You're right, 20 minutes isn't long enough to get into the fat burning stage, especially since sprinting, like lifting, is fueled by glycogen...hence the musculature. Fortunately, sprinting elevates the metabolism MUCH longer than "cardio," so think of it as 40 mins for the price of 20.

...and you get to keep the muscle, and the efficient heart.


What about 20 minutes of sex at a "sprinting pace" or 40 minutes of sex at a more moderate pace? What would be the fat burning implications of this activity?

c-ditty ;)
 
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