33years old, never tried this stuff

[wootoom]

Why do you say that?

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[stevesmi]

if your joints are aching then roids will make it way worse. what you need is to stop pounding away.. your job is gonna make you into a cripple if you keep this up. i would suggest increasing your omega's and getting on a multi vitamin.

 

[RADAR]

Steve, Zyg and Nelson know their stuff, I have been here in this game for over 45yrs so if you wish to pm me i will be more than happy to sit and chat with you to discuss things you need and stuff you don't need, but please don't waste my time by not taking me seriously.

 

[SoCalMK6GTI]

Steve, Zyg and Nelson know their stuff, I have been here in this game for over 45yrs so if you wish to pm me i will be more than happy to sit and chat with you to discuss things you need and stuff you don't need, but please don't waste my time by not taking me seriously.

Thank you, I appreciate it. And I can't imagine ever NOT taking something like this seriously.

 

[SoCalMK6GTI]

As far as my diet being on point, I can't think of a single person who eats perfectly and gets exactly the amount of nutrients their body needs. I do food prep every Sunday and I make sure to hit my macros on a daily basis.

Yes I am beat up at the end of the day but if you had my job (hell, yours might be worse) for as long as I have you'd be a bit beat up too. I'm not a slacker, I work my butt off, did 6 years in the Army and spent tjme in Afghanistan. My body has been through a lot, just looking to get on track, become more educated by everyone here and on my bodybuilding forums and take my time doing something right rather than jumping in head first and screwing up my body for life.

 

[stevesmi]

I started my first cycle about 11 years ago after I had cancer. I am now 57. My first cycle was test and tren. Best cycle I ever did. A lot of people freak out here about tren but I think it's one of the best sterods one can use. It has the most research of any roid because they use it in cattle.. Don't think more is better, it's not. And I tell you I firmly believe that if I did not start using roids I would be dead today. They saved my life. If it's your first cycle try test and tren. You won't regret it. There are some sides but if ou keep the tren to a reasonable level it's not to bad.

please don't listen to this idiotic advice..

 

[Zyglamail]

As far as my diet being on point, I can't think of a single person who eats perfectly and gets exactly the amount of nutrients their body needs. I do food prep every Sunday and I make sure to hit my macros on a daily basis.

Yes I am beat up at the end of the day but if you had my job (hell, yours might be worse) for as long as I have you'd be a bit beat up too. I'm not a slacker, I work my butt off, did 6 years in the Army and spent tjme in Afghanistan. My body has been through a lot, just looking to get on track, become more educated by everyone here and on my bodybuilding forums and take my time doing something right rather than jumping in head first and screwing up my body for life.

The last thing I am trying to imply is that your a slacker. On the contrary I think its amazing you work out as much as you do considering your day job and that all leads right into what I am trying to tell you. You want to get on track you need to focus on the basics and when you can go all week without feeling all beat up and "off track" thats when your ready to take things to the next level and add in some AAS.

Your rough on your body which makes it even more important that you take nutrition seriously. Nutrients are expended in repair and with your physical labor day job on top of gym time its crucial you play things smart and give your body what it needs to repair. Your nutrient needs are far beyond what the average person needs.

My point about diet is just as you said, no one eats perfect and even if you did you still wont get what you need. I listed some examples above about the common misconceptions people have about simple supplements that can make or break your life in and out of the gym. I dont want you or anyone else to take my word for it, I simply want to peak your interest and foster the desire for you to question whats really important (ie short term relief from AAS or long term health and prosperity by giving the body what it needs) and to go out and search for your own answers.

Everyone seems dead set on finding the next magic AAS or sarm all the while ignoring the most basic principles of giving the body what it needs.

Ive made more progress in 3 years on TRT by focusing on replenishing the depleted stores of nutrients my body needs than I did in 5 years doing heavy cycle when I was 10 years younger.

 

[FunGuns]

You are kidding right? Please say yes


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Thank God someone said it, I was gonna say something but you mentioned it first

 

[Newabs]

I'm also 33 and have never done any steroid before. I just got some HGH. I've been told I should add test to the mix. I'm 5'11 200 and just want to cut up. I really want abs!! Any advice is appreciated. Dieting is fine and workouts are as follows:

Mon - chest/tris
Tues - back/bis
We'd - shoulder traps
Thurs - chest/tris
Fri - back/bis
Sat - shoulder/trap/legs

Should I be working out less? Adding some things?

 

[SoCalMK6GTI]

I'm also 33 and have never done any steroid before. I just got some HGH. I've been told I should add test to the mix. I'm 5'11 200 and just want to cut up. I really want abs!! Any advice is appreciated. Dieting is fine and workouts are as follows:

Mon - chest/tris
Tues - back/bis
We'd - shoulder traps
Thurs - chest/tris
Fri - back/bis
Sat - shoulder/trap/legs

Should I be working out less? Adding some things?

Seems like overkill to me without a rest day mixed in there somewhere.

Thanks for chiming in though, the more informational banter the better. Have you started your HGH yet? Any pros or cons that you've noticed?