The ultimate insulin thread

[anthrax]

Not so long ago post workout diet was pretty simple:

It was said that we needed some gigh GI carbs to induce an insulin spike that will "push" amino acids (from the post workout shake) into muscles, thus repairing and building new muscles

But, we now know that we don't need a lot of high GI carbs to create that insulin spike

And very gigh GI carbs (like dextrose) have some cons that we should avoid

So, are those high GI carbs mandatory ?
useful ?
useless ?

Should we avoid those high GI carbs even post workout and stick to loer GI carbs or just protein ?

 

[juve]

It was said that we needed some gigh GI carbs to induce an insulin spike that will "push" amino acids (from the post workout shake) into muscles, thus repairing and building new muscles

This fallible premiss is what prompted everyone into believing that 80g's dextrose PW is optimal for growth - growth of what? adipocities? And all the malleable adherents of whoever procured this theory spread it around like a gangrene

A minimal amount of insulin is necessary for aminoacid transport: MINIMUM!!!!!!! In fact so minimum that ingested protein itself induces enough of an insulin surge (very small, but nontheless) to be assimilated.
As a matter of fact concuming dextrose only causes a prmature spike - your protein has not even began the process of being digested (protein>peptide>aminoacid) while your blood sugar is rampant.
And cortisol antagonizing properties - once again minimum insulin; as soon as your body shifts to a process of being 'fed' cortisol production ceases and insulin itself suppresses the rest.

 

[chewyxrage]

i just eat like 30g medium-low gi carbs post workout about a half hour my whey.......is this accomplising anything?

 

[ProtienFiend]

Re: Re: The ultimate insulin thread

A minimal amount of insulin is necessary for aminoacid transport: MINIMUM!!!!!!! In fact so minimum that ingested protein itself induces enough of an insulin surge (very small, but nontheless) to be assimilated.

so what do u use in your PW shake?

how many carbs do you eat for the rest of the day following your workout?

 

[ohashi]

I'm going to post this once more. Read these two articles on post-workout nutrition and importance of high-GI carbohydrates during this time:

First article - proper post-workout nutrition, quite in-depth.

Second article - importance and function of carbohydrates, with more sources cited on the subject than ever before.

 

[anthrax]

Great articles, ohashi

Thx

 

[juve]

and so the debate continues...

 

[jaymis]

juve , post up a diet that you follow

 

[ohashi]

Debate? LOL, science versus folk lore.

 

[adam wj]

good reading ohashi, karma for you