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The Biblical Believers....
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Atheists the least trusted????
http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2006/03/24/67686
March 24, 2006
Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
By Jeannine Aquino
Atheists are America's least trusted group, according to a national survey conducted by University sociology researchers.
Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are also least willing to let their children marry atheists.
"It tells us about how Americans view religion," said Penny Edgell, an associate sociology professor and the study's lead researcher. "Many Americans seem to believe some kind of religious faith is central to being a good American and a good person."
The study will appear in the April issue of the "American Sociological Review." Professor Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Douglas Hartmann are study co-authors. It is the first in a series of national studies conducted by the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in the United States.
Edgell said Americans traditionally have been a religious people and associate faith with being a good citizen. The survey results indicate that this belief hasn't changed, Edgell said.
Those surveyed tended to view people who don't believe in a god as the "ultimate self-interested actor who doesn't care about anyone but themselves," Edgell said.
Cole Ries, the president of the Maranatha Christian Fellowship said he does not agree with that perception.
"Atheists seem to be concerned with the human good," he said. "Where I differ as a Christian is that I'm more concerned with God's will than man's will."
Still, Ries said, "I don't believe that anybody is really an atheist. I believe that deep down everyone knows there is a god."
Robert O'Connor, a sophomore and member of Campus Atheists and Secular Humanists, said he was not surprised by the survey results.
Americans generally are very religious, O'Connor said, and people usually are suspicious about those who do not share the same beliefs.
"People really strongly believe that religion and good morals are one and the same," O'Connor said. "Increasing problems of society - for example, juvenile delinquency - are being blamed on lack of religious value."
Joe Foley, co-chairman for Campus Atheists and Secular Humanists, was not surprised by the results, either.
"I know atheists aren't studied that much as a sociological group, but I guess atheists are one of the last groups remaining that it's still socially acceptable to hate," Foley said.
First-year pharmacy student Amanda Wawrzynia, however, found the study reasonable.
She said she would have ranked atheists at the bottom of the list of those sharing the same vision of American society.
"I would rather have my kids marry someone of a different religion than someone who has none," she said.
Yet Benjamin Abrams, a member of the Jewish student center Hillel, said he was surprised people would have reservations about their children marrying atheists.
"I understand if people want to marry someone of a similar faith, but I don't understand why it would be any different from marrying a Muslim, a Jew or a Christian," Abrams said. "It's another religious belief. I don't understand why atheism would have negative connotations."
Abrams said Judaism teaches that people's actions, not one's beliefs, are what matter most.
"(Atheists) should have the same rights to not believe as someone would have the right to believe," he said.
First-year biology student Joe Reutiman calls the results a "sad state of affairs."
"(Atheists) have the right to believe whatever they want, even if that belief is nothing," Reutiman said. "They shouldn't have to fit in with the clean-cut American life like a Norman Rockwell painting."
Atheists the least trusted????
http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2006/03/24/67686
March 24, 2006
Survey: U.S. trust lowest for atheists
By Jeannine Aquino
Atheists are America's least trusted group, according to a national survey conducted by University sociology researchers.
Based on a telephone survey of more than 2,000 households and in-depth interviews with more than 140 people, researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, homosexuals and other groups as "sharing their vision of American society." Americans are also least willing to let their children marry atheists.
"It tells us about how Americans view religion," said Penny Edgell, an associate sociology professor and the study's lead researcher. "Many Americans seem to believe some kind of religious faith is central to being a good American and a good person."
The study will appear in the April issue of the "American Sociological Review." Professor Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Douglas Hartmann are study co-authors. It is the first in a series of national studies conducted by the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in the United States.
Edgell said Americans traditionally have been a religious people and associate faith with being a good citizen. The survey results indicate that this belief hasn't changed, Edgell said.
Those surveyed tended to view people who don't believe in a god as the "ultimate self-interested actor who doesn't care about anyone but themselves," Edgell said.
Cole Ries, the president of the Maranatha Christian Fellowship said he does not agree with that perception.
"Atheists seem to be concerned with the human good," he said. "Where I differ as a Christian is that I'm more concerned with God's will than man's will."
Still, Ries said, "I don't believe that anybody is really an atheist. I believe that deep down everyone knows there is a god."
Robert O'Connor, a sophomore and member of Campus Atheists and Secular Humanists, said he was not surprised by the survey results.
Americans generally are very religious, O'Connor said, and people usually are suspicious about those who do not share the same beliefs.
"People really strongly believe that religion and good morals are one and the same," O'Connor said. "Increasing problems of society - for example, juvenile delinquency - are being blamed on lack of religious value."
Joe Foley, co-chairman for Campus Atheists and Secular Humanists, was not surprised by the results, either.
"I know atheists aren't studied that much as a sociological group, but I guess atheists are one of the last groups remaining that it's still socially acceptable to hate," Foley said.
First-year pharmacy student Amanda Wawrzynia, however, found the study reasonable.
She said she would have ranked atheists at the bottom of the list of those sharing the same vision of American society.
"I would rather have my kids marry someone of a different religion than someone who has none," she said.
Yet Benjamin Abrams, a member of the Jewish student center Hillel, said he was surprised people would have reservations about their children marrying atheists.
"I understand if people want to marry someone of a similar faith, but I don't understand why it would be any different from marrying a Muslim, a Jew or a Christian," Abrams said. "It's another religious belief. I don't understand why atheism would have negative connotations."
Abrams said Judaism teaches that people's actions, not one's beliefs, are what matter most.
"(Atheists) should have the same rights to not believe as someone would have the right to believe," he said.
First-year biology student Joe Reutiman calls the results a "sad state of affairs."
"(Atheists) have the right to believe whatever they want, even if that belief is nothing," Reutiman said. "They shouldn't have to fit in with the clean-cut American life like a Norman Rockwell painting."
javaguru
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Apparently, 68% of Republicans do not believe in evolution.
http://pandagon.net/2007/06/13/most-republicans-dont-believe-in-evolution/
"The majority of Republicans in the United States do not believe the theory of evolution is true and do not believe that humans evolved over millions of years from less advanced forms of life. This suggests that when three Republican presidential candidates at a May debate stated they did not believe in evolution, they were generally in sync with the bulk of the rank-and-file Republicans whose nomination they are seeking to obtain.
…As noted previously, belief in evolution has been injected into the political debate already this year, with much attention given to the fact three Republican presidential candidates answered a debate question by saying that they did not believe in evolution.
It appears that these candidates are, in some ways, “preaching to the choir” in terms of addressing their own party’s constituents — the group that matters when it comes to the GOP primaries. Republicans are much more likely to be religious and attend church than independents or Democrats in general. Therefore, it comes as no great surprise to find that Republicans are also significantly more likely not to believe in evolution than are independents and Democrats.
If you go by church attendance, the discrepancy is even larger — 74% of churchgoers do not believe in evolution. And these are the folks Bush loves to put in in charge of science-based agencies."
The Republican debate....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Cc8t3Zd5E
http://pandagon.net/2007/06/13/most-republicans-dont-believe-in-evolution/
"The majority of Republicans in the United States do not believe the theory of evolution is true and do not believe that humans evolved over millions of years from less advanced forms of life. This suggests that when three Republican presidential candidates at a May debate stated they did not believe in evolution, they were generally in sync with the bulk of the rank-and-file Republicans whose nomination they are seeking to obtain.
…As noted previously, belief in evolution has been injected into the political debate already this year, with much attention given to the fact three Republican presidential candidates answered a debate question by saying that they did not believe in evolution.
It appears that these candidates are, in some ways, “preaching to the choir” in terms of addressing their own party’s constituents — the group that matters when it comes to the GOP primaries. Republicans are much more likely to be religious and attend church than independents or Democrats in general. Therefore, it comes as no great surprise to find that Republicans are also significantly more likely not to believe in evolution than are independents and Democrats.
If you go by church attendance, the discrepancy is even larger — 74% of churchgoers do not believe in evolution. And these are the folks Bush loves to put in in charge of science-based agencies."
The Republican debate....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Cc8t3Zd5E
javaguru
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Jesus Camp......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UWIb4FwHPg
Bill Maher Discussion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGceAojHR6o
Even Fox News Doesn't like these people...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns-kPDVXACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UWIb4FwHPg
Bill Maher Discussion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGceAojHR6o
Even Fox News Doesn't like these people...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns-kPDVXACE
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Bill Maher is always good.
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javaguru said:
I didn't watch it, but I like him in general...we are on the same page.
I'll admit I didn't read this whole thread.
I don't really get what the big deal is. Why should I care if someone likes the bible better than biology books?
Everyone needs something to believe in, something to focus on.
Some people devote their lives to religion, some people devote their lives to science, some people devote their lives to drugs, some people devote their lives to money, and some people devote their lives to Star Trek.
I don't care.
I think everyone has irrational beliefs - even you.
I don't really get what the big deal is. Why should I care if someone likes the bible better than biology books?
Everyone needs something to believe in, something to focus on.
Some people devote their lives to religion, some people devote their lives to science, some people devote their lives to drugs, some people devote their lives to money, and some people devote their lives to Star Trek.
I don't care.
I think everyone has irrational beliefs - even you.
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